Is it time to purchase yet or wait? at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XH Series HDV Camcorders

Canon XH Series HDV Camcorders
Canon XH G1S / G1 (with SDI), Canon XH A1S / A1 (without SDI).


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 21st, 2010, 03:54 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 339
Is it time to purchase yet or wait?

Gents,

I would really appreciate some guidance & advice from the experts and seasoned professionals.

Where can I find a thoughtful discussion of the pros, cons (of each model) & the differences between the XH-A1 and the A1S?

Can either of those models shoot directly in 720p like the GL-2 or is downsizing to 720p from HD the only option?

What is the anticipated product lifespan remaining seeing thatís its already been on the market for a couple of years? When will Canon release the next line of prosumer camcorders? Should I wait a few months and see what happens?

Can these models produce a warm look with vibrant colors closely akin to the Canon GL-2? Have any of you duplicated that look on the A1 or S? If so, would you be willing to share that/those preset(s) with me?

Should I consider saving approx 1k (over buying 1 new) by buying a used one from a fellow DVíer? What is a fair price and what sorts of questions should I be asking in such a case?

Has Canon given up offering rebates for their camcorders?

At this point seeing that the A1 is over 3 years old since it was released, are there any other alternatives that can compete feature and pricepoint-wise yet?

Thank you
Bruce Pelley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 21st, 2010, 04:09 PM   #2
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wales
Posts: 2,130
Those models are getting quite old now.
Canon are likely to make a big announcement at NAB, see this thread http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...2-2-codec.html
All tape cameras are looking a bit old in these solid state days. A current alternative is the JVC HM700, or the Sony EX1 maybe?
Steve
Steve Phillipps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 21st, 2010, 04:56 PM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,068
To answer a few of your questions as I have a xh-a1


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Pelley View Post
Where can I find a thoughtful discussion of the pros, cons (of each model) & the differences between the XH-A1 and the A1S?
You can use the search option in this forum, this topic has been discussed more then once here, you can also look here to see the changes: Canon XH A1 / XH A1S Comparison - January 2009 - picturelineNews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Pelley View Post
Can either of those models shoot directly in 720p like the GL-2 or is downsizing to 720p from HD the only option?
No, it does 1080i or 1080p or plain old standard dev

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Pelley View Post
Can these models produce a warm look with vibrant colors closely akin to the Canon GL-2?
No, the xh-a1 produces a very flat image but I like it like that, it allows me to collorcorect in post as needed, never liked the presets though, they can give you a nice look but if you mess up it's hard to adjust afterwards.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Pelley View Post
Should I consider saving approx 1k (over buying 1 new) by buying a used one from a fellow DV’er? What is a fair price and what sorts of questions should I be asking in such a case?
I would wait for the next gen from Canon to come out, the xh-a1 is for sure a great camera, even a used xh-a1, but it start showing it's age. Don't underestimate the advantage of tapeless workflow, especially the time gained when transferring footage or being able to browse through your footage during a shoot. Also the "old" xh-a1 has some bigger problems like the too small lcd screen making focusing right a real hassle and quite poor low light capability. It produces quite some grain with insufficient light conditions.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Pelley View Post
At this point seeing that the A1 is over 3 years old since it was released, are there any other alternatives that can compete feature and pricepoint-wise yet?
When I bought my xh-a1 it was the cheapest I could find in it's class with xlr, when the new xh-a1s came out the price got a lot higher and now is still about 700 dollar higher then what i paid for it. On the other hand it has quite some improvements that does justify that pricedifference somewhat. Some camera's that come to mind (taken EU prizes into consideration) are the pana hmc150 which has teh same price as a xh-a1s here but from then the pricedifference goes up to about 1200 dollar for the next comparable model (like a sony hvr-z5)

A hmc150 does produce a much nicer colorpalet then the canon and it's tapeless, it also has a wider angle lens and has about the same (maybe a bit better) low light capability.
I'd say that here in Europe the HMC150 is the best priced in it's class now (only comparing tapeless camera's)
Noa Put is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XH Series HDV Camcorders

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:05 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network