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Canon XH Series HDV Camcorders
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Old June 29th, 2006, 10:21 AM   #46
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ok I should say I would like a native 16:9, 24p, SD in something the size of a GL2.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 10:23 AM   #47
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I just wanted a smaller camera. The XL2 looks good and if the price keeps dropping,,,,,who knows.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 10:46 AM   #48
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May I point out that although the LCD looks to be 16:9, the matte box still looks to be 4:3... of course it's hard to tell from that perspective, but it just doesn't seem to be wide enough.

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Old June 29th, 2006, 11:20 AM   #49
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I think Chris is just having some fun.... Now, when he actually puts up a new GL3 or GLH1 forum...........


I have an XLH1, and still have a 7-year old GL1. (an XL1, GL2 and an XL2 have come and gone as well) But if there ever is a GL-ish sized HDV, then I'm there! (Then I can let my wife use the GL1, she's been wanting to for a real long time! --I thought about giving her my FX1, but she'd just shoot another 80 hours of footage of her cat, only this tme in HD)
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Old June 29th, 2006, 11:23 AM   #50
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I think he saw a picture and he is wondering what it is too. I doubt Canon tells many people when they have something coming out and if Chris knows he wouldn't say.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 11:51 AM   #51
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but wait the Gl2 in Japan (XV2) has always been Slate gray... please not a cruel tease at this stage?
Now would I do such a thing? And if I would do such a thing, at least it gets us thinking and talking, right...?

The XV2 has always been slate gray? What, you mean this ain't the GL3? Are we sure about that? D'oh!
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Old June 29th, 2006, 12:12 PM   #52
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Maybe Sony is putting out custom color cameras, can I please have one in yellow with black stripes?
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Old June 29th, 2006, 12:33 PM   #53
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Now would I do such a thing? And if I would do such a thing, at least it gets us thinking and talking, right...?

The XV2 has always been slate gray? What, you mean this ain't the GL3? Are we sure about that? D'oh!
if you go to some Japen Canon sites it looks just like the XV2. But on the first picture Chris posted the LCD is different.
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Old July 1st, 2006, 05:56 AM   #54
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That pic looks like the Japanese black version of the GL2. Yes, in Japan, you can get the black one like the Pana Black Mamba a couple years back. Only in Japan. :-(
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Old July 1st, 2006, 10:17 AM   #55
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ok,,,I just checked Canon's website and they extended the GL2 $250 rebate till sept 30, 2006!! What the h#%$ kind of crap is that? At least give $500 or something new.
How long are they going to hang on to this camera? I'm sure it is a good camcorder, maybe update it or something. Maybe they will still come out with a new one too,,,,but it doesn't look like it.
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Old July 1st, 2006, 10:47 AM   #56
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The early thumbnail - I dont think thats a GL3 - looks like a photoshop to me - and hence why no larger pictures
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 02:28 AM   #57
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ok,,,I just checked Canon's website and they extended the GL2 $250 rebate till sept 30, 2006!! What the h#%$ kind of crap is that? At least give $500 or something new.
How long are they going to hang on to this camera? I'm sure it is a good camcorder, maybe update it or something. Maybe they will still come out with a new one too,,,,but it doesn't look like it.
This is insane- how many can they still be selling???, mine went the day the FX1 came out, since then i've picked up a Z1 and A1 as well. So how far can they stretch this 'loyal' Canon fan??
I Know they have a history of keeping future releases under wraps, but if they ARE ever going to get a HDV GL2 up and running at least give us a clue.
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 09:18 AM   #58
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This is insane-....... So how far can they stretch this 'loyal' Canon fan??
Damn reet Paul!! Damn Reet!!
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 11:17 PM   #59
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I actually just bought 2 of em for the first time just the other day...
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Not to mention, I've been waiting to see their their for years (not that it is going to be worth the money by how they are charging now).

I think the answer is that the Mpeg4 and h264 issue has thrown a spanner in the works.

I think Japanese companies pursued a line of under nourished HDTV codec cameras and got caught off guard by the rising capability of processing technology, as it became obvious that HDV was not as seamless quality as MiniDV. Processing speed increases were slowing down, so they might have been planing to pursue Mpeg 2 with things like XDCAMHD. But then advances in multiprocessing would have caused them to access old Mpeg4. The rise of low cost and powered processing arrays, caused an American company (Ambarella) to leapfrog competitors and come out with a low cost (hopefully quality) H264 product that leap frogged their competitors. I understand they Japanese were surprised to see it. The HDTV industry in Europe started questioning the use of Mpeg4 for HDTV, and now the industry has defined pro H264 for broadcast (maybe it had something to do with the Ambarella tech as well). All these things could have caused delays in camera releases as they were accessed.

I suspect that Panasonic might have known something that caused them to go the h264 route much earlier.

The Ambarella cameras did not come out in March, as intended. They have wither started manufacture of chips and are stockpiling for a number of camera releases, or they are yet to ramp up production and only a few cameras will be able to be released this year in quantity. I think it is likely, that only a few consumer/low end prosumer H264 cameras will be released this year.
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