Possibility of a 1920x1080 CMOS? at DVinfo.net

Jack Zhang · September 3rd, 2006, 12:59 PM

After seeing the HV10 footage (which I think most of you have). do any of you think that they might put in a 1920x1080 CMOS in the XH G1 and A1?

Tony Tibbetts · September 3rd, 2006, 01:13 PM

Ummm... no.

Jack Zhang · September 3rd, 2006, 01:31 PM

Whoops. It's "Affordable 3CCD High Definition (HD / HDV) Acquisition", Sorry.

Sharyn Ferrick · September 3rd, 2006, 09:40 PM

considering the major position Canon has with its cmos in digital cameras, I would disagree and say it is very likely that CANON will use CMOS in its higher end camcorders. but it would be a future new model

Sharyn

Michael Struthers · September 5th, 2006, 03:48 PM

Sony probably sells the cmos chips to Canon, and will be releasing their own 3 chip cmos hdv cam shortly.

Zack Birlew · September 5th, 2006, 04:08 PM

I would very much like to see where CMOS sensors go as the quality of one right now is amazing. Just take a look at the Sony HC1/HC3/A1U cameras, they get all the quality packed in their bulkier siblings, the FX1 and Z1U, at not only a cheaper price, but also a much, much, much smaller size.

But to implement three of them? Oh man, that would be just downright cool! If that's on the horizon, then NAB '07 will definitely make up for the lackluster NAB '06. ;)

Chris Hurd · September 5th, 2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Struthers

Sony probably sells the cmos chips to Canon

Incorrect. The 1920x1080 CMOS chips in the new HV10 camcorders are manufactured by Canon, in the same plant that makes Canon CMOS sensors for their Digital SLR still camera product line. In fact the HV10 is the very first Canon camcorder that does not outsource any integral component. The image from the HV10 is all Canon, from the lens to the CMOS chip to the Digic DV II processor to the HDV tape transport.

J. Stephen McDonald · September 5th, 2006, 11:23 PM

Does this imply that the Canon CMOS is better than the one they might have gotten from Sony? I've always liked the fact that many of the manufacturers used components from one another, which resulted in better overall camcorders. Canon made better glass, Sony's CCDs and recorders were superior, the viewfinders and viewscreens might have come from a company that did the best with them, etc. Of course, in Canon's case, making their own image sensors may be in their best interests. Some years back, when they were dependent on their main competitors for their CCDs, they were given ones that were 2nd-rate to what the makers produced for their own camera models.

Sharyn Ferrick · September 6th, 2006, 12:46 AM

Canon leads in the cmos sensors for digital cameras, probably more likely SONY would do better getting them from Canon.

Sharyn

Chris Hurd · September 6th, 2006, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Stephen McDonald

Does this imply that the Canon CMOS is better than the one they might have gotten from Sony?

As of the time of this writing, Sony does not make a one-third inch 1920x1080 CMOS chip for HD camcorders.

Michael Struthers · September 6th, 2006, 03:11 PM

Good news if Canon is making cmos sensors. Time to pump out a 2/3" sensor.

Tom Roper · September 6th, 2006, 11:02 PM

Sony makes APS-C format sensors for Nikon DSLR camera bodies.
Canon makes their own CMOS sensors.

September 3rd, 2006, 12:59 PM	#1
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Possibility of a 1920x1080 CMOS? After seeing the HV10 footage (which I think most of you have). do any of you think that they might put in a 1920x1080 CMOS in the XH G1 and A1?

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Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Sony probably sells the cmos chips to Canon, and will be releasing their own 3 chip cmos hdv cam shortly. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

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Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	I would very much like to see where CMOS sensors go as the quality of one right now is amazing. Just take a look at the Sony HC1/HC3/A1U cameras, they get all the quality packed in their bulkier siblings, the FX1 and Z1U, at not only a cheaper price, but also a much, much, much smaller size. But to implement three of them? Oh man, that would be just downright cool! If that's on the horizon, then NAB '07 will definitely make up for the lackluster NAB '06. ;) __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

September 5th, 2006, 11:23 PM	#8
J. Stephen McDonald Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 909	Does this imply that the Canon CMOS is better than the one they might have gotten from Sony? I've always liked the fact that many of the manufacturers used components from one another, which resulted in better overall camcorders. Canon made better glass, Sony's CCDs and recorders were superior, the viewfinders and viewscreens might have come from a company that did the best with them, etc. Of course, in Canon's case, making their own image sensors may be in their best interests. Some years back, when they were dependent on their main competitors for their CCDs, they were given ones that were 2nd-rate to what the makers produced for their own camera models. __________________ Steve McDonald https://onedrive.com/?cid=229807ce52dd4fe0 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22121562@N00/ http://www.vimeo.com/user458315/videos

September 6th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#11
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Good news if Canon is making cmos sensors. Time to pump out a 2/3" sensor. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

September 3rd, 2006, 01:13 PM	#2
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	Ummm... no.

September 3rd, 2006, 01:31 PM	#3
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Whoops. It's "Affordable 3CCD High Definition (HD / HDV) Acquisition", Sorry.

September 3rd, 2006, 09:40 PM	#4
Sharyn Ferrick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 128	considering the major position Canon has with its cmos in digital cameras, I would disagree and say it is very likely that CANON will use CMOS in its higher end camcorders. but it would be a future new model Sharyn

September 6th, 2006, 12:46 AM	#9
Sharyn Ferrick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 128	Canon leads in the cmos sensors for digital cameras, probably more likely SONY would do better getting them from Canon. Sharyn

September 6th, 2006, 11:02 PM	#12
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	Sony makes APS-C format sensors for Nikon DSLR camera bodies. Canon makes their own CMOS sensors.