The XH A1 and Premier Pro 2.0 at DVinfo.net

Devon Lyon · October 26th, 2006, 04:43 PM

I am about to order the XH A1 and have only been able to find tiny bits of information regarding Premier Pro's ability to handle the different 24F, 30f and 60i HDV footage.

I am not getting rid of my XL2, but am a little nervous about spending $4K and then pulling my hair out if my NLE has grief with the footage. Any reassurance/explanation of how Adobe's NLE will handle the footage would be much appreicated. Thanks!

Pete Bauer · October 26th, 2006, 04:53 PM

Either native HDV or Cineform, PPro works as expected with the XL H1 with the exception of export to tape in 24F (Cineform have been working on a license to do that for some time, but it hasn't been released yet).

There are a few designed-in limitations in the capture window, like having to use your device (camera) to view the actual capture and you can't frame advance or frame reverse in the capture window (the buttons are greyed out). The one thing you will want is a fairly fast computer; doing HDV involves a lot more number crunching than DV. An older system will leave you frustrated, especially if you use AE.

Rafael Lopes · October 27th, 2006, 01:52 AM

If you are a premiere pro guy such as my self, one way to deal with the export to tape situation is to export the final edited file and than play it back from another software that allows export to tape. It sucks but so far it would be the only way. I hope adobe comes up with a solution for this. I export ALL my projects to tape, dvd, and vcd (for different purposes).

Jack Jenkins · October 27th, 2006, 10:11 AM

It sucks that premiere wont export to tape, but I was trying to think when I last exported a project to tape and its been a few years. I guess if "tape in/tape out" environments still exist, but since DVDs and or the ability to play directly from a digital file it seems like the situations where you would play from tape are pretty rare. Obviously its the cheapest way to backup a project, but I would trust a data dvd backup more than a tape backup at this point.

Devon Lyon · October 27th, 2006, 12:25 PM

So as I move forward and have camera in hand in around two weeks, do I just hook up the new A1 via firewire and import using the update download from Adobe?

Pete Bauer · October 27th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Yup, with the caveats noted about the capture window, it is otherwise the same process as capturing miniDV. PPro places a *.mpg (or *.mpeg -- can't remember) file extension on the captured file.

I haven't done F-mode export to tape myself as yet (maybe I should test this), but it is supposed to only be 24F that won't export to tape. 30F and 60i are supposed to be ok.

Devon Lyon · October 27th, 2006, 12:48 PM

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October 26th, 2006, 04:43 PM	#1
Devon Lyon Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 213	The XH A1 and Premier Pro 2.0 I am about to order the XH A1 and have only been able to find tiny bits of information regarding Premier Pro's ability to handle the different 24F, 30f and 60i HDV footage. I am not getting rid of my XL2, but am a little nervous about spending $4K and then pulling my hair out if my NLE has grief with the footage. Any reassurance/explanation of how Adobe's NLE will handle the footage would be much appreicated. Thanks! __________________ Lyon Films www.LyonFilms.com;

October 26th, 2006, 04:53 PM	#2
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Either native HDV or Cineform, PPro works as expected with the XL H1 with the exception of export to tape in 24F (Cineform have been working on a license to do that for some time, but it hasn't been released yet). There are a few designed-in limitations in the capture window, like having to use your device (camera) to view the actual capture and you can't frame advance or frame reverse in the capture window (the buttons are greyed out). The one thing you will want is a fairly fast computer; doing HDV involves a lot more number crunching than DV. An older system will leave you frustrated, especially if you use AE. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 27th, 2006, 12:25 PM	#5
Devon Lyon Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 213	So as I move forward and have camera in hand in around two weeks, do I just hook up the new A1 via firewire and import using the update download from Adobe? __________________ Lyon Films www.LyonFilms.com;

October 27th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#6
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Yup, with the caveats noted about the capture window, it is otherwise the same process as capturing miniDV. PPro places a .mpg (or .mpeg -- can't remember) file extension on the captured file. I haven't done F-mode export to tape myself as yet (maybe I should test this), but it is supposed to only be 24F that won't export to tape. 30F and 60i are supposed to be ok. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 27th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#7
Devon Lyon Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 213	Really interesting article on the HDV format Highly recommend: http://www.dv.com/features/features_...questid=401852 __________________ Lyon Films www.LyonFilms.com;

October 27th, 2006, 01:52 AM	#3
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	If you are a premiere pro guy such as my self, one way to deal with the export to tape situation is to export the final edited file and than play it back from another software that allows export to tape. It sucks but so far it would be the only way. I hope adobe comes up with a solution for this. I export ALL my projects to tape, dvd, and vcd (for different purposes).

October 27th, 2006, 10:11 AM	#4
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	It sucks that premiere wont export to tape, but I was trying to think when I last exported a project to tape and its been a few years. I guess if "tape in/tape out" environments still exist, but since DVDs and or the ability to play directly from a digital file it seems like the situations where you would play from tape are pretty rare. Obviously its the cheapest way to backup a project, but I would trust a data dvd backup more than a tape backup at this point.