Wide Angle Adaptor for XH A1?

Hernan Vilchez · April 6th, 2007, 07:47 PM

IMO its a lack of respect and professionality from Canon... they spit over their brand with these silly and annoying mistakes

as a read in other threads, so difficult was to build it with barn doors a la Sony...?

Evan C. King · April 7th, 2007, 08:45 PM

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as a read in other threads, so difficult was to build it with barn doors a la Sony...?

Sony probably patented that.
But is it that big of a deal? The only time I need lens caps on are when I'm not using it, when I'm not using it, it's in a safe place like my gear bag anyway, so why would it fall off?

Richard Hunter · April 8th, 2007, 12:10 AM

I came across the Raynox HDP-6000EX High Definition Wideangle conversion Lens 0.79X in a brochure the other day, and also found this link

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/vide....htm#hdp6000ex

Does anyone know if this lens is full zoom-through on the XH-A1? The brochure mentions the A1 as a compatible model, but this website says 1x - 12x zoom range. Some feedback from someone who has tried it out on the A1 would be most welcome. The price I was quoted was a bit under US$450 which I thought was reasonable.

Richard

Don Palomaki · April 8th, 2007, 05:48 AM

FWIW: http://www.don-sara-parsons.com/raynox/cvtu.html
shows the Raynox as full xoom through under the listing for the XL H1, at $650 USD. (That is consistent with having 4 elements in 3 groups. The partial zoom through adapter typically have 1 group and lower price points.) BTW: that was about the only USA hit by Google on the adapter model number, I guess it is too new.

Barry Gribble · April 8th, 2007, 08:43 AM

Yeah, I wish I had gone with that. I have the Canon, and the 0.8 is really not doing it for me. It is such an incremental change for a lot of money and a huge amount of weight. The look is great, though.

Tom Cambridge · April 8th, 2007, 04:42 PM

I am finding it difficult to find a wide-angle option for my A1. I bought a zunow wfx-07 but it was terrible with soft edges and chromatic abberation. I need wider than the canon 0.8x also but need full zoom through ability, the century 0.7x zoom through is more than i want to pay. Has anybody had any experience with these from cavision http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

A full zoom-through 0.6x would be perfect.

Tom Cambridge · April 10th, 2007, 04:02 AM

Anyone had any experience with this converter?

David Warren · April 10th, 2007, 08:34 PM

im leasing my A1 plus a ton of other camera gear.. going to go pick it up this week.

i spoke to my equipment guy about wide angle attachments briefly and he showed me a century optics .65 adapter for about $230 canadian. he said it was HD certified as well.

it comes with a bunch of adapter rings to fit it onto a variety of different cameras as well.. ill post when i have an actual model # but it sounds pretty good to me.

Steven Dempsey · April 10th, 2007, 08:40 PM

I'd love to see some footage of the camera with a WA attachment if anyone is up for it.

Eric Weiss · April 10th, 2007, 09:05 PM

me too. zoom through is most important to me.
i've never had a third party..especially century, provide true
zoom through.

i was just going to buy the canon.

oddly enough, my century wa bayonet for the xl1-s does not fit on the
A1. not that i would pervert the A1 with that POS paperweight anyway..I was just curious.

David Warren · April 10th, 2007, 10:03 PM

zoom through isnt that important to me. its nice to have but its not that hard to live without either ;)

Richard Hunter · April 10th, 2007, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Weiss

me too. zoom through is most important to me.
i've never had a third party..especially century, provide true
zoom through.

i was just going to buy the canon.

oddly enough, my century wa bayonet for the xl1-s does not fit on the
A1. not that i would pervert the A1 with that POS paperweight anyway..I was just curious.

Hi Eric. I had a Century 0.7X converter that was zoom through on my XL2. When I bought an A1, I filed away a small section of the bayonet mount surface, and it fitted fine on the A1 (thanks to a tip in a previous forum post). The bad news is that the image with converter fitted was blurry round the edges when zoomed out to full WA. Pretty useless really, so I ended up selling it with my XL2.

I think Century have brought out (or are in the process of bringing out) a HD version of this converter, I expect it will be much sharper.

Richard

David Warren · April 11th, 2007, 12:10 AM

this new one may be the one im talking about.

Eric Weiss · April 11th, 2007, 07:14 AM

Richard, it looks exactly the same on my Xl1-s too.
Blurry around the edges at full WA but i was never able to zoom through without some serious blur.

I really only wanted to see if it would fit to get an idea of the weight
and basic view of what the Canon WDH-72 0.75X would provide.

Richard Hunter · April 11th, 2007, 07:52 AM

Hi Eric. My converter was fine on the XL2, a bit of barrel distortion and slightly softer than the 20X lens, but I never noticed any blurring (that wasn't caused by me). Only when I put it on the A1 did it show the blur problem. I wonder if they changed the models between your XL1S model and my XL2 model?

Richard

April 8th, 2007, 05:48 AM	#154
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	FWIW: http://www.don-sara-parsons.com/raynox/cvtu.html shows the Raynox as full xoom through under the listing for the XL H1, at $650 USD. (That is consistent with having 4 elements in 3 groups. The partial zoom through adapter typically have 1 group and lower price points.) BTW: that was about the only USA hit by Google on the adapter model number, I guess it is too new. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

April 8th, 2007, 08:43 AM	#155
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	Yeah, I wish I had gone with that. I have the Canon, and the 0.8 is really not doing it for me. It is such an incremental change for a lot of money and a huge amount of weight. The look is great, though. __________________ Barry Gribble Integral Arts, IMDB

April 10th, 2007, 08:40 PM	#159
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	I'd love to see some footage of the camera with a WA attachment if anyone is up for it. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

April 6th, 2007, 07:47 PM	#151
Hernan Vilchez Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 135	IMO its a lack of respect and professionality from Canon... they spit over their brand with these silly and annoying mistakes as a read in other threads, so difficult was to build it with barn doors a la Sony...?

April 8th, 2007, 12:10 AM	#153
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	I came across the Raynox HDP-6000EX High Definition Wideangle conversion Lens 0.79X in a brochure the other day, and also found this link http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/vide....htm#hdp6000ex Does anyone know if this lens is full zoom-through on the XH-A1? The brochure mentions the A1 as a compatible model, but this website says 1x - 12x zoom range. Some feedback from someone who has tried it out on the A1 would be most welcome. The price I was quoted was a bit under US$450 which I thought was reasonable. Richard

April 8th, 2007, 04:42 PM	#156
Tom Cambridge New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Posts: 24	I am finding it difficult to find a wide-angle option for my A1. I bought a zunow wfx-07 but it was terrible with soft edges and chromatic abberation. I need wider than the canon 0.8x also but need full zoom through ability, the century 0.7x zoom through is more than i want to pay. Has anybody had any experience with these from cavision http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation A full zoom-through 0.6x would be perfect.

April 10th, 2007, 04:02 AM	#157
Tom Cambridge New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Posts: 24	Anyone had any experience with this converter?

April 10th, 2007, 08:34 PM	#158
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	im leasing my A1 plus a ton of other camera gear.. going to go pick it up this week. i spoke to my equipment guy about wide angle attachments briefly and he showed me a century optics .65 adapter for about $230 canadian. he said it was HD certified as well. it comes with a bunch of adapter rings to fit it onto a variety of different cameras as well.. ill post when i have an actual model # but it sounds pretty good to me.

April 10th, 2007, 09:05 PM	#160
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	me too. zoom through is most important to me. i've never had a third party..especially century, provide true zoom through. i was just going to buy the canon. oddly enough, my century wa bayonet for the xl1-s does not fit on the A1. not that i would pervert the A1 with that POS paperweight anyway..I was just curious.

April 10th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#161
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	zoom through isnt that important to me. its nice to have but its not that hard to live without either ;)

April 11th, 2007, 12:10 AM	#163
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	this new one may be the one im talking about.

April 11th, 2007, 07:14 AM	#164
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Richard, it looks exactly the same on my Xl1-s too. Blurry around the edges at full WA but i was never able to zoom through without some serious blur. I really only wanted to see if it would fit to get an idea of the weight and basic view of what the Canon WDH-72 0.75X would provide.

April 11th, 2007, 07:52 AM	#165
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Hi Eric. My converter was fine on the XL2, a bit of barrel distortion and slightly softer than the 20X lens, but I never noticed any blurring (that wasn't caused by me). Only when I put it on the A1 did it show the blur problem. I wonder if they changed the models between your XL1S model and my XL2 model? Richard