A1 Issue When Recording at DVinfo.net

Philip McDonald · December 30th, 2006, 11:13 AM

In the course of recording HDV at 60i I am experiencing a problem of the loss of a second or two of recorded footage. There is no indication when this is occuring during shooting, only upon capture or playback. The playback delays, freezing momentarily then resumes at a point a second or so later. During a 30 minute shoot this is happening a dozen or so times. Has anyone else experienced this?

Brent Graham · December 30th, 2006, 11:51 AM

I've experienced this once so far. I think this is dropped frames in a long-GOP format. I would suggest higher quality tapes.

I use Panasonic Master Quality DV tapes (AMQ i think)

cheaper tapes, used tapes, older tapes, will probably cause more drop outs than new, clean, quality tapes.

Pete Bauer · December 30th, 2006, 12:10 PM

Canon camera user manuals also advise to do a tape cleaning before using the camera to ensure the heads don't have any residue on them. If you haven't done that, probably should do so and see if the problem is resolved. If not, could be a trip to service.

Philip McDonald · December 30th, 2006, 12:19 PM

I have used a head cleaner regularly, and apparently this hasn't resolved the problem.

I will see whether a better quality tape does any good though before bringing it in for service.

Thanks for the input.

Lou Bruno · December 30th, 2006, 02:09 PM

It is also important to keep in mind that video heads MUST be burnished. This requires about 10 hours to really get the heads to a point of true functionality. DO NOT use a cleaning tape to burnish the heads. This process must be both long and minute.

Chris Korrow · December 30th, 2006, 02:33 PM

I got a bad batch of tapes once (20 of them) & had massive drop outs.
First thought it was the camera, then my computer (just upgraded FCP), but used a couple of older tapes & no problem, go back to the new ones & have massive dropouts again. So it could be the tape.
Pani 63PQ

December 30th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#1
Philip McDonald New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roseville, Minnesota Posts: 5	A1 Issue When Recording In the course of recording HDV at 60i I am experiencing a problem of the loss of a second or two of recorded footage. There is no indication when this is occuring during shooting, only upon capture or playback. The playback delays, freezing momentarily then resumes at a point a second or so later. During a 30 minute shoot this is happening a dozen or so times. Has anyone else experienced this?

December 30th, 2006, 12:10 PM	#3
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Canon camera user manuals also advise to do a tape cleaning before using the camera to ensure the heads don't have any residue on them. If you haven't done that, probably should do so and see if the problem is resolved. If not, could be a trip to service. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 30th, 2006, 02:09 PM	#5
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	It is also important to keep in mind that video heads MUST be burnished. This requires about 10 hours to really get the heads to a point of true functionality. DO NOT use a cleaning tape to burnish the heads. This process must be both long and minute. __________________ Lou Bruno

December 30th, 2006, 11:51 AM	#2
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	I've experienced this once so far. I think this is dropped frames in a long-GOP format. I would suggest higher quality tapes. I use Panasonic Master Quality DV tapes (AMQ i think) cheaper tapes, used tapes, older tapes, will probably cause more drop outs than new, clean, quality tapes.

December 30th, 2006, 12:19 PM	#4
Philip McDonald New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roseville, Minnesota Posts: 5	I have used a head cleaner regularly, and apparently this hasn't resolved the problem. I will see whether a better quality tape does any good though before bringing it in for service. Thanks for the input.

December 30th, 2006, 02:33 PM	#6
Chris Korrow Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whidbey Is, WA Posts: 326	I got a bad batch of tapes once (20 of them) & had massive drop outs. First thought it was the camera, then my computer (just upgraded FCP), but used a couple of older tapes & no problem, go back to the new ones & have massive dropouts again. So it could be the tape. Pani 63PQ