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Felix Theissen January 26th, 2007 07:30 AM

Possible to record from A1 via firewire and FCP 5.1.2 directly to disk?
 
Hi, my A1 arrived and I wanted to test it first without using tapes. I am on Macbook pro.
With imovie i could directly record to my Macbook via firewire.
But the codec is intermediate, it takes a lot of space and no 25 f (pal country)
is possible. With FCP it did not work in filming mode (not vtr mode).
I did get a picture but could not capture.
What do i have to do that it works with Final Cut either?
Has anyone done that succesfully?
I am in the 2 weeks return time, i am just starting with that camera.
I tested the ccd with lenscap on to look for hot pixels.
Has anybody suggestions for other weak points i should test?

Thank you.

Felix.

Max Huettermann January 26th, 2007 08:07 AM

Hi Felix,

ist überhaupt kein Problem.
Du musst nur ein Band in der Kamera haben und auf record drücken.
Dann kannst du in Final Cut mit "direkt" capturen.
Anschließend kannst du die Aufnahme an der Kamera beenden, Final Cut captured weiter bis die Platte voll ist!

Felix Theissen January 26th, 2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Huettermann
Hi Felix,

ist überhaupt kein Problem.
Du musst nur ein Band in der Kamera haben und auf record drücken.
Dann kannst du in Final Cut mit "direkt" capturen.
Anschließend kannst du die Aufnahme an der Kamera beenden, Final Cut captured weiter bis die Platte voll ist!

Danke. Thanks, but is there a possibility to do it without the tape running
(I don´t want to switch tape on and off all the time)? In iMovie it works, i don´t
even have to put a tape in. And in Final Cut i get the picture on my macbook,
but i can´t record. Is there a possibility?

Felix

Manuel Fantoni January 27th, 2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix Theissen
Hi, my A1 arrived and I wanted to test it first without using tapes. I am on Macbook pro.
With imovie i could directly record to my Macbook via firewire.
But the codec is intermediate, it takes a lot of space and no 25 f (pal country)
is possible. With FCP it did not work in filming mode (not vtr mode).
I did get a picture but could not capture.
What do i have to do that it works with Final Cut either?
Has anyone done that succesfully?
I am in the 2 weeks return time, i am just starting with that camera.
I tested the ccd with lenscap on to look for hot pixels.
Has anybody suggestions for other weak points i should test?

Thank you.

Felix.


I do have macbook pro and FCP 5.1.2 and was able do it.

Plug in the firewire cable,swithc on the camera.

Open FCP and from the menu FILE choose LOG and CAPTURE,which is the same thing you would do for capturing from tape.

In the windows that will open you should see replicated the image you see "live" in your camera LCD.

Change and play with the setting you want :A, TV,Av Manual, white balance or wathever and you'll be able to see the changes in both screen and LCD.

When you want to RECORD what you're shooting go on the low right side of the window and you'll see "capture" and three options ,choose NOW and what you see in your camera will be captured "live"(almost....there is a little delay).

Everything tapeless.

Hope it was helpful and actually that's what you were asking about.

Felix Theissen January 28th, 2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manuel Fantoni
I do have macbook pro and FCP 5.1.2 and was able do it.

Plug in the firewire cable,swithc on the camera.

Open FCP and from the menu FILE choose LOG and CAPTURE,which is the same thing you would do for capturing from tape.

In the windows that will open you should see replicated the image you see "live" in your camera LCD.

Change and play with the setting you want :A, TV,Av Manual, white balance or wathever and you'll be able to see the changes in both screen and LCD.

When you want to RECORD what you're shooting go on the low right side of the window and you'll see "capture" and three options ,choose NOW and what you see in your camera will be captured "live"(almost....there is a little delay).

Everything tapeless.

Hope it was helpful and actually that's what you were asking about.

Yes, thanks it was helpfull, now i know that it does work without tape,
but not with my macbook pro fcp 5.1.2 and A1.
I see this delayed live window, but when i hit "direct logging" i get the
logging window with the message: searching for media...
(i don´t know whether that is the exact translation as everything here is german).

But it works with imovie, sometimes (!) Don´t know whether this
a A1 camcorder or an apple problem.

Felix

Manuel Fantoni January 28th, 2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix Theissen
Yes, thanks it was helpfull, now i know that it does work without tape,
but not with my macbook pro fcp 5.1.2 and A1.
I see this delayed live window, but when i hit "direct logging" i get the
logging window with the message: searching for media...
(i don´t know whether that is the exact translation as everything here is german).

But it works with imovie, sometimes (!) Don´t know whether this
a A1 camcorder or an apple problem.

Felix

In this two pictures you can see the windows that i iuse,i don't see any "direct logging" command.

Is your FCP in german?Maybe you are using other commands?


PICTURE 1 How do i open the log and capture windows

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3909/picture2ee7.png

PICTURE 2 This is the windows that you opened with "log and capture" command of picture 1 and where is the "NOW" command i use


http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3178/picture3qm5.png

Felix Theissen January 28th, 2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manuel Fantoni
In this two pictures you can see the windows that i iuse,i don't see any "direct logging" command.

Is your FCP in german?Maybe you are using other commands?


PICTURE 1 How do i open the log and capture windows

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3909/picture2ee7.png

PICTURE 2 This is the windows that you opened with "log and capture" command of picture 1 and where is the "NOW" command i use


http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3178/picture3qm5.png

Thank you. That is the menu and the button i use. Then something happens
like the little capturing window opens and then it changes its little text message to
searching for media...
then the capturing windows stays open in that status forever but no
capturing.

Must be a general quicktime or fcp with A1 firewire capturing problem,
as i have seen from other threads.

I assume there are no sophisticated settings in the camcorder or fcp one
has to know?

Felix Theissen January 29th, 2007 11:11 AM

It finally worked. Yes, it´s easy. The trick is to have a tape in the camera
(but you don´t have to hit record).
Thx.

Kalulu Ngilo January 30th, 2007 12:48 AM

same applies to Premiere Pro 2. I was able to send the output directly the computer.


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