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Old February 11th, 2007, 03:06 AM   #1
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Time code differece in downconverted capture

Do the following:
Capture a footage in HD.
Capture the same with downconvert to SD option.

The timecode is shifted. The same frame does not have the same timecode in HD and SD. Any comments?

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Old February 11th, 2007, 11:04 AM   #2
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This is normal and common. TC is generated over 12 frames, like the mpeg-2 image.
Had the same problems with the Z-1. Edit natively in HDV or, if you can capure HDV and export rom your apllication to SD (FCP exports the timecode as well. But you will use double disc space.
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Old February 11th, 2007, 12:12 PM   #3
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How far off

How far off is the timecode when downcoverting. I do same day highlights at weddings and when we do one with the new A1 we will be downconverting. We have a shot list and write down timecodes of shots we want so we can capture more easily. Is it many seconds or just a few frames of a second?
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Old February 11th, 2007, 02:26 PM   #4
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How far off is the timecode when downcoverting...
About 11-12 frames.
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Old February 11th, 2007, 02:32 PM   #5
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Cool....I can deal with that. Our timecodes just get us in the ball park of where the shot was at. If it was multiple seconds it may cause a problem.
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Old February 12th, 2007, 10:24 AM   #6
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Not sure if this is related or not... When capturing down-converted footage using Scenalyzer Live, using time-code changes to detect scene breaks, I consistently get 3 frames from the previous scene on the front of every clip. This is just a little confusing in my NLE (Liquid 5.62) since by default it uses the first frame as the icon thumbnail picture (they call it a "picon") for the clip. If this was a GOP issue, I'd expect a varying number of extra frames, from 0 to 13 (PAL GOPs are 13 frames). I therefore think that in the data stream over firewire, the timecode is 3 frames ahead of the pictures. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe it is a result of using Scenalyzer? I must try capturing with Liquid, and see if I get the same result....
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Old February 12th, 2007, 10:38 AM   #7
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I use Adobe Premiere CS 2.0
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