Letus clip

Steven Dempsey · April 10th, 2007, 09:55 AM

Sorry, only m2t right now:

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/letustest003.m2t
and
http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/letustest008.m2t

Again, ignore the color because it's off. I used the VIVIDRGB setting but did not white balance. While it's not exactly edge-to-edge sharp, it's way better than I could imagine. Nikon 28mm f2.8 lens for first shot, Nikon 100mm f2.8 lens for second shot

Barlow Elton · April 10th, 2007, 02:00 PM

Nice, Steven--that's actually useable as a wide, which is very signifigant as far as these adapters go. Looks like Quyen has made some nice improvements to the Letus Enhanced. Glad to see that.

Eric Weiss · April 10th, 2007, 03:21 PM

very sharp indeed! albeit quite dreary, it's sharp as cheddar.

while the shots are wide and crisp, i'm not really feeling the whole "film" thing though. I would have just guessed you shot this with the cam on "green box."

anyone notice the incredible DOF the A1 simply has out of the box?

Steven Dempsey · April 10th, 2007, 03:24 PM

My intention was different than usual with this 35mm adapter still. Most of the time, there is difficulty in shooting the usual narrow depth of field shots while also shooting wide scenes. Generally there is very little detail in wide shots using these adapters so some filmmakers end up using the stock lens of their video cams for wide shots creating a nightmare in matching colorimetry, etc.

So the fact that this looks like something without an adapter is perfect. It means that, conceivably, an entire film could be shot with the adapter with wide and close ups.

Okay, that was a kinda long and convoluted answer but I think I made the point.

Eric Weiss · April 10th, 2007, 03:46 PM

touche.

i may have to pick up the flip and check it out myself. i love shallow DOF on
close ups but only have a ton of EOS lenses ...including the 10-22 WA.

I have no idea of the conversion ratio on that lens, but I am sure it would be interesting.

anyway, with EOS i think im stuck with the Micro 35 and i hear EOS isnt the best option anway.

i don't want to deal with upside down monitors, throwing more money at nikkon too, or carting two sets of lenses everywhere.

i'm screwed, venting, and ranting.

Chris Barcellos · April 10th, 2007, 04:37 PM

Steven, were those in 24p or 60i. Gave my Windows media player fits, for some reason, though VLC did fine...

Steven Dempsey · April 10th, 2007, 04:39 PM

24p, Windows Media Player seems to balk at m2t files that are 24p...not sure why.

Oleg Kalyan · April 10th, 2007, 10:01 PM

Steven, it looks sharp, yet somewhat low contrast, which I find more cinematic. Was it wide open? Have you put two shots side by side to compare?(stock and Letus). I have exact dilemma, of how to match them on the same shoot, H1(mini35) and A1 stock lens.

Eric Weiss · April 10th, 2007, 10:02 PM

Both WMP and Quicktime can act very buggy when it comes to HD files.
I find VLC to work very well. Also, Nero Showtime plays huge 1080 mpeg, ts, and m2t files very smooth.

Mike Gorski · May 1st, 2007, 09:06 AM

Was a lot of the grain in the picture the result of the adapter of the camcorders dB setting high?

April 10th, 2007, 09:55 AM	#1
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Letus clip - very sharp wide shot Sorry, only m2t right now: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/letustest003.m2t and http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/letustest008.m2t Again, ignore the color because it's off. I used the VIVIDRGB setting but did not white balance. While it's not exactly edge-to-edge sharp, it's way better than I could imagine. Nikon 28mm f2.8 lens for first shot, Nikon 100mm f2.8 lens for second shot __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

April 10th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#4
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	My intention was different than usual with this 35mm adapter still. Most of the time, there is difficulty in shooting the usual narrow depth of field shots while also shooting wide scenes. Generally there is very little detail in wide shots using these adapters so some filmmakers end up using the stock lens of their video cams for wide shots creating a nightmare in matching colorimetry, etc. So the fact that this looks like something without an adapter is perfect. It means that, conceivably, an entire film could be shot with the adapter with wide and close ups. Okay, that was a kinda long and convoluted answer but I think I made the point. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

April 10th, 2007, 04:37 PM	#6
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Steven, were those in 24p or 60i. Gave my Windows media player fits, for some reason, though VLC did fine... __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 10th, 2007, 04:39 PM	#7
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	24p, Windows Media Player seems to balk at m2t files that are 24p...not sure why. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

April 10th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#2
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Nice, Steven--that's actually useable as a wide, which is very signifigant as far as these adapters go. Looks like Quyen has made some nice improvements to the Letus Enhanced. Glad to see that.

April 10th, 2007, 03:21 PM	#3
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	very sharp indeed! albeit quite dreary, it's sharp as cheddar. while the shots are wide and crisp, i'm not really feeling the whole "film" thing though. I would have just guessed you shot this with the cam on "green box." anyone notice the incredible DOF the A1 simply has out of the box?

April 10th, 2007, 03:46 PM	#5
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	touche. i may have to pick up the flip and check it out myself. i love shallow DOF on close ups but only have a ton of EOS lenses ...including the 10-22 WA. I have no idea of the conversion ratio on that lens, but I am sure it would be interesting. anyway, with EOS i think im stuck with the Micro 35 and i hear EOS isnt the best option anway. i don't want to deal with upside down monitors, throwing more money at nikkon too, or carting two sets of lenses everywhere. i'm screwed, venting, and ranting.

April 10th, 2007, 10:01 PM	#8
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Steven, it looks sharp, yet somewhat low contrast, which I find more cinematic. Was it wide open? Have you put two shots side by side to compare?(stock and Letus). I have exact dilemma, of how to match them on the same shoot, H1(mini35) and A1 stock lens.

April 10th, 2007, 10:02 PM	#9
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Both WMP and Quicktime can act very buggy when it comes to HD files. I find VLC to work very well. Also, Nero Showtime plays huge 1080 mpeg, ts, and m2t files very smooth.

May 1st, 2007, 09:06 AM	#10
Mike Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 163	Was a lot of the grain in the picture the result of the adapter of the camcorders dB setting high?