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Jase Tanner May 21st, 2007 09:15 PM

Strength of external mike a manufacturing design flaw?
 
I've had my hands on 2 different A1's. The first was a rental picked up by somebody for me. The external mike was so loose it looked just about ready to fall off. The second, a brand new camera, also had a loose mike. Anyone else encountered this?

Chris Hurd May 21st, 2007 10:48 PM

A frequently asked question -- see http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....40&postcount=7

It's not a flaw, it's a feature.

Jase Tanner May 22nd, 2007 06:12 AM

Thanks. Good to know that but I will say the way they've done it, doesn't inspire confidence.

Vincent Oliver May 22nd, 2007 04:58 PM

I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off. This held on by two small screws, a weak point on the camera!

David W. Jones May 22nd, 2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver (Post 684101)
I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off. This held on by two small screws, a weak point on the camera!

Yes I agree, it is a weak point of the camera.... If you are using it as a hammer to drive nails!

Richard Hunter May 22nd, 2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver (Post 684101)
I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off.

All by itself? :)

Seriously, the mount may not be that strong, but if it is snapped off there must be quite a severe shock felt by the rest of the camera too. Try to think of it as a precision instrument, not a mallet.

Richard

Larry Chapman May 22nd, 2007 06:44 PM

I took the mic holder off (and saved all the parts).

Wynn Bradford May 22nd, 2007 10:00 PM

No problems here
 
Man I'v been shooting my A1 for 4 months now in every situation you can think of with a Azden SMG-1x on it with no problems at all. It has taken a couple of pretty good whacks no that I think about it and still tight.

Wynn B

Vincent Oliver May 23rd, 2007 03:31 AM

No, I didn't use the camera as a hammer, the camera was shipped with the item broken off. I only posted this because I thought the connection looks weak and could imagine the holder snapping off with a moderate knock.

I will get a replacement holder in due course.

Don Palomaki May 23rd, 2007 07:29 AM

The external holder may have been designed to fail before an applied stress takes out some other part of the camcorder, a bit like a properly sized fuse will blow before the circuits it protects melt. After all, a shotgun mic in the holder can provide a large lever and a too-strong holder could result in damage to the mic and/or camcorder.

Piotr Wozniacki May 23rd, 2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Palomaki (Post 684514)
The external holder may have been designed to fail before an applied stress takes out some other part of the camcorder, a bit like a properly sized fuse will blow before the circuits it protects melt. After all, a shotgun mic in the holder can provide a large lever and a too-strong holder could result in damage to the mic and/or camcorder.

Exactly - that's why I find the Sony's solution (a rubber hinge) quite smart.

Russell Pearce May 23rd, 2007 08:24 AM

mine's screwed in so tight I cant get it off!


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