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Old July 8th, 2007, 10:02 AM   #1
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External mic holder not usable?

I recently got my XH-A1. I attached the Rode NTG-2 that I already had. Since the NTG-2 was too slim, I put some foam tape inside the mic holder. Now the mic is attached firmly, but during recording it picks up every touch on the camera and you can hear even the zoom motor.

I know you can buy the Rode SM3 shock mount, but then the shoe is not available anymore for a camera light.

Does anyone have good experience with the external mic holder and a shotgun mic?

Thanks in advance,

Winfried
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Old July 8th, 2007, 10:40 AM   #2
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I have had the same experience. Which is why I'm in the process of picking up a Rode SM5 - it should fit into the mic holder.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 12:47 PM   #3
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yeah same cam, same mic here and just wrapped a paper towel around the rode to thicken it. no problems with extra sounds being picked up though.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 08:31 PM   #4
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Winfried,

I had the same problem with my external mic picking up zoom motor
noise and being overly sensitive.
I totally solved it by getting one of these, and it left me with a shoe
for my radio mic reciever.
I am not affilliated with this produce or the person who makes it,
but it works.

http://www.thej-rod.com/

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Old July 8th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #5
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That J-Rod looks awesome.. Did it fit the mic holder perfectly or did you need to build it up to fit the A1's extra large diameter holder?
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Old July 8th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #6
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You can also go to a hardware store (take the mic with you) and buy a couple of O-rings that fit over the mic tightly.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 09:45 PM   #7
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you will want some kind of shock mount to reduce handling noise. you can get a beyerdynamic shock mount with the j-rod (altho any shoe-based shock mount will fit on the j-rod), and the j-rod does fit perfectly in the xh mic holder.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 03:01 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the answers. I'll do a few more tests with different ways to attach the mic to the clamp. If it doesn't work out, I'll order that Rode SM5. That's probably cheaper than the j-rod + a shoe mount shock adapter.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 12:17 PM   #9
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Some folks find that over tightening the mic holder increases coupling of handling noise to the mic. Keep it lose, so that it just holds the mic from sliding in the mount.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 01:14 PM   #10
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I got this and added it to my shockmount.


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ed_Camera.html
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Old July 9th, 2007, 04:07 PM   #11
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I was always under the impression that the K-BWS was the better fit for the A1.

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Old July 9th, 2007, 04:43 PM   #12
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I'm using the Rycote Camera Clamp Adapter and it works great. No camera/handling noise at all. See link below for details.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...tie_Mount.html
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Old July 12th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #13
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Well here's a really simple fix. Yesterday I went to Lowes and bought weather striping for $5. I bought the 1.25 width and it is 7/16 thick. You get 10 foot of it but who cares, it worked! No motor sound and it's shock resistant.
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Old July 14th, 2007, 03:55 AM   #14
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That's exactly what I did as well, but with less success. I found out that indeed you shouldn't tighten it too much, so now at least the zoom motor sounds are gone, but the mic is still quite sensitive to touching the camera.
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Old July 14th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #15
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Winfried...listen to people who have been thru it all. You get what you pay for. DIY is not the answer to your question. Don't come on forums and ask for help if your not sincere about it. Sound is 50% of any film. You must take it seriously like a business. I know your new so please just don't do it again. No harm no foul.
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