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Richard Kane July 12th, 2007 05:07 PM

best setting for sports in 24p
 
just wondering if you have any recommendations.
i tried preset 18 on the downloadable ones on this site
put the camera on "a" but the images seemed jittery
sorry i know its kind of a newbee question

Richard Hunter July 12th, 2007 05:42 PM

Hi Richard. It's probably best to avoid 24p for fast action, just use 60i which will give much smoother results. (At least try it out and see what you think.)

Richard

Cary Lee July 14th, 2007 04:09 AM

Yes definitely 60i regular HDV. Not 24P.

Paul Joy July 14th, 2007 11:29 AM

You can get okay results in progressive too, it just depends how smooth you want it. Instead of using 'A' mode try using 'TV' and setting the shutter speed to 60 (for NTSC locations). A high shutter speed is what's going to effect the stuttering the most and when using 'A' mode the camera will adjust it all over the place to get a correct exposure.

I use 'M' (Manual) mode now and never change the shutter speed from 50 (PAL), then it's just a case of getting your exposure right, which will probably involve using one of the ND settings if it's a bright day. 'TV' mode is shutter priority, so the camera will still try to control the exposure using iris & gain (if enabled) but it'll leave the shutter alone, so give that a try if your not confident with manual yet. You will need to set the shutter each time though in TV mode as it defaults to 25 (on my camera at least).

btw, if you haven't done so already do yourself a favour turn auto gain off :)

I filmed some stuff at my sons sports day last week using 25F.

Here's a small sample http://olikai.com/viner-sports (20Mb)

btw, I can't figure out how to make my quicktime files stream, they only start playing once the whole file is loaded... any ideas?

Paul.

Bill Pryor July 14th, 2007 11:46 AM

People have shot sports at 24p for years with no problems.

Richard Hunter July 15th, 2007 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pryor (Post 712066)
People have shot sports at 24p for years with no problems.

No doubt about that, but Richard is trying to solve a particular problem with jittery images. He will definitely get smoother results with 60i.

Richard

Paul Cronin July 15th, 2007 08:16 AM

I shoot high speed sailing at 30F and 60 or 120 shutter has been my best results so far. 60i breaks up on the vertical lines which is hard to get away from on sailboats. I can not make 24F smooth enough. The reason I switched from the Sony Z1 to the Canon A1 was to see if 30F was better then 60i and the answer is yes for my work. Also my high end clients who watch on HDTV have noticed the difference.

George Heredia July 16th, 2007 12:33 AM

I shot this in 24f.

http://geozero.com/assets/multimedia...Volleyball.mov

Richard Hunter July 16th, 2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Heredia (Post 712595)

Looked a bit juddery to me, but could be due to close proximity with the girl rather than the 24F!

Lloyd Choi July 16th, 2007 08:19 AM

shoot atleast 1/120 shutter. I personally like the 24f look and motion. Much more filmic.

But sports, if you're considering slowmotion, DEFINITELY shoot 60i as you'll get smoother slow mo than 24f.

Peter Dunphy May 16th, 2009 05:39 PM

I used 1/16000 shutter today to film some brief running and jumping in TV mode. I played it back on my tv after and it looked really good, but a little dark. I had gain at -3 and it was very cloudy but with slight sun.

Anyone else used such a radical shutter speed? I was dying to try it out!


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