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Brandon Freeman July 26th, 2007 08:08 AM

Smokin' Hot Pixels
 
Okay, just had to make that interesting enough to click on. :)

I'm going to be hitting the warpath at my church soon, trying to convince the board to give me the budget to purchase 5 XH-A1 systems (including tripods, remotes, etc.). However, in a previous life, I shot with the GL-1 a lot, and recall a bad pixel becoming apparent early on. Also shot with an XL-1, and remember two bad pixels becoming apparent there (more off and on).

So, question: is your typical XH-A1 going to have the same tendencies?

Or to put it another way, how many A1 users here have (had) bad/hot/funky pixels?

Bill Pryor July 26th, 2007 08:58 AM

The GL1 was famous for dead pixels and head alignment problems. Those pretty much went away with the GL2, and with the XL2, I didn't hear of any problems. The XL H1 has been out for nearly 2 years now I think, and I haven't read a single dead pixel story; same for the XH A1/G1. Apparently Canon's quality control in chip selection is better.

Josh Chesarek July 26th, 2007 09:01 AM

All my pixels are still working on my A1 after 7 months.

Steven Taylor July 26th, 2007 09:40 AM

are there post production solutions to hot pixels?

Matthew Nayman July 26th, 2007 10:12 AM

My question is... a church needs FIVE a1's?

Anyway, yes, I had a dead pixel a while back on my XHA1, but it was only with 6db of gain and 1/24 of a second shutter, so technically it was a HOT pixel.

Brandon Freeman July 26th, 2007 10:32 AM

Matthew, how easy/difficult was it to fix the problem?

And yes, we're a church that does a lot of video, and it's going to pick up quite a bit more this next year, as we run several schools under VCOM, or Vineyard College of Mission. My school that starts September 2008 is Worldview Video, and will be a full-fledged 9 month course equipping students in narrative and documentary styles of filming. There's my little plug...

Anyway, we've also got needs for new cameras in the sound booth for Sunday, new production cameras for our weekly "Advent-ure" video series, and of course our weekly Children's Ministry videos... Right now we've just been using pretty much whatever old gear I donate to the church. I want to step it up, as our Senior Pastor has been hammering excellence heavily.

So that's why I feel we need five. :)

Don Palomaki July 26th, 2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

...are there post production solutions to hot pixels?
One simple option is to mask the hot pixels in your NLE to something close to black or what ever color you want. That would make it less visible in the image.

Hot pixels are commonly caused by the dark current of the pixel, and become apparent when using high gain and/or slow shutter speeds and shooting flat, dark subjects, with a limited gray scale, especially in shadows.

Steven Taylor July 27th, 2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Palomaki (Post 719143)
One simple option is to mask the hot pixels in your NLE to something close to black or what ever color you want. That would make it less visible in the image.

Hot pixels are commonly caused by the dark current of the pixel, and become apparent when using high gain and/or slow shutter speeds and shooting flat, dark subjects, with a limited gray scale, especially in shadows.

Yeah that makes sense. I was wondering if there was anything which would mask it based on the colour of the neighbouring pixels. Not a problem i have luckily, just wondering.

Brad Tyrrell July 27th, 2007 06:38 AM

I found that masking a very small area around the bad pixel with a duplicate of the track with an NR filter applied works very well. That little area will appear "fuzzy" but it's unlikely anyone will notice.

Those hot pixels were what made me finally upgrade my XL-1 to the XH-A1.

Matthew Nayman July 27th, 2007 10:06 AM

It wasn't too bad. I sent it into canon, they didnt see a problem sent it back, problem came back, sent it into canon, no problem, sent it back, I made proof (more video, pictures, contacted a higher-up on the chain) they replaced the CCD block for free and sent it back with apologies... just have to be persistant :P

Only took 2 months.

Brian Findlay July 29th, 2007 09:41 PM

I've got two on a 9 month old XL-H1
 
Technically they are the same thing (XH-A1 - XL-H1), so I figured it was worth mentioning. I don't know what the policy is from Canon yet, but I should find out soon. I just noticed it today as a matter fact, I loaded something up that had an all black background, so the little white dots show up in two places and stay static when everything else moves.


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