Which 4x4 glass filter for yellow image? at DVinfo.net

Rob Bruijgoms · October 18th, 2007, 11:54 AM

I want to shoot a music videoclip in soft yellow tones (I use an XL2). I am planning on buying a matte-box and I wonder which 4x4 filter will do the job properly. Without costing much of course...
Or is altering the white balance a better option?
Anyone a hint? Thanks!

Michael Nistler · October 18th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Hi Rob,

If you've got lots of light, you could go the Matte-box route, or simply screw on a Tiffen filter. Just be sure you have lots of light, otherwise you'll lose resolution and fight the grainy problem. But I'd see if I could make color balance work for me. Rather than misadjusting the white balance, adjust the color presets and you should be able to get far better effects than you ever could using a filter or white balance - your XL-2 shines in this department!

Good luck, Michael

Rob Bruijgoms · October 18th, 2007, 12:30 PM

Thanks for your quick reply Michael!
I'll give it a shot with adjusting the red, green and blue.
Thanks again!

Bill Hamell · October 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM

IMHO, there is a better route whilst using the pre-sets is better than using a filter, better still is shooting it normal and adding the tint in post.

When you use a filter or a pre-set you have what you have, when you do color correction in post you have control and can manipulate the look to your satisfaction.

Bill

Dale Stoltzfus · October 18th, 2007, 06:00 PM

I'm with you there, Bill. You just have so much more control in Post!

The thing is, I might think "I want this part to be yellowish," but only realize when I look at it later that I didn't really want a flat, yellowish cast, I wanted the highlights to be yellowish. And I probably wanted more contrast and crushed blacks. And I also want the dark areas to be bluish. Oops, can't do that - the dark areas are already yellow because that's the way I shot it. Hmm...

Steve Siegel · October 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM

By the way, who makes 4 x 4 glass filters. I use Tiffen acrylic ones and they scratch so easily.

Jack Barker · October 19th, 2007, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Siegel

By the way, who makes 4 x 4 glass filters. I use Tiffen acrylic ones and they scratch so easily.

Here's the Square & Rectangular Filters start page at B&H. You can choose "Color Conversion," "Special Color Effects," etc., but then choose 4x4 from the left column to narrow the list.

Or, you might want to start on the various home pages of the manufacturers to find what you want.

Formatt
http://www.formatt.co.uk/home/default.asp

Lee
http://leefiltersusa.com/

Schneider
http://www.schneideroptics.com/

Tiffen
http://www.tiffen.com/

Cokin
http://www.cokin.com/

October 18th, 2007, 11:54 AM	#1
Rob Bruijgoms Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 30	Which 4x4 glass filter for yellow image? I want to shoot a music videoclip in soft yellow tones (I use an XL2). I am planning on buying a matte-box and I wonder which 4x4 filter will do the job properly. Without costing much of course... Or is altering the white balance a better option? Anyone a hint? Thanks!

October 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM	#4
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	IMHO, there is a better route whilst using the pre-sets is better than using a filter, better still is shooting it normal and adding the tint in post. When you use a filter or a pre-set you have what you have, when you do color correction in post you have control and can manipulate the look to your satisfaction. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

October 18th, 2007, 06:00 PM	#5
Dale Stoltzfus Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ephrata, PA United States Posts: 257	I'm with you there, Bill. You just have so much more control in Post! The thing is, I might think "I want this part to be yellowish," but only realize when I look at it later that I didn't really want a flat, yellowish cast, I wanted the highlights to be yellowish. And I probably wanted more contrast and crushed blacks. And I also want the dark areas to be bluish. Oops, can't do that - the dark areas are already yellow because that's the way I shot it. Hmm... __________________ Mountjoy! Studios - Promotional Videography & Graphic Design MountjoyStudios.net

October 18th, 2007, 12:06 PM	#2
Michael Nistler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Petaluma, CA Posts: 456	Hi Rob, If you've got lots of light, you could go the Matte-box route, or simply screw on a Tiffen filter. Just be sure you have lots of light, otherwise you'll lose resolution and fight the grainy problem. But I'd see if I could make color balance work for me. Rather than misadjusting the white balance, adjust the color presets and you should be able to get far better effects than you ever could using a filter or white balance - your XL-2 shines in this department! Good luck, Michael

October 18th, 2007, 12:30 PM	#3
Rob Bruijgoms Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 30	Thanks for your quick reply Michael! I'll give it a shot with adjusting the red, green and blue. Thanks again!

October 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#6
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 839	By the way, who makes 4 x 4 glass filters. I use Tiffen acrylic ones and they scratch so easily.