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Old July 31st, 2004, 03:58 PM   #1
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Has the dreaded black bar gone???

Remember that long thread that went on and on regarding the 3 pixel black bar that appears at the base of every XL1S image? Can anyone say whether Canon has seen fit to get rid of it on the XL2?

As a multimedia developer who shoots footage mostly for the computer and not for TV - that nearly drove me nuts!!!

Also...how's the image quality? I really don't want to hear that tired old excuse line about "Canon has a softer but warmer image" any longer. If the image quality isn't noticably improved (in terms of sharpness) then I will definitely be trading in my XL1s for another brand - especially at 5 grand!!



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Old July 31st, 2004, 07:34 PM   #2
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Ron, you should search for some XL2 screen grabs. There's quite a few floating around, and yes the bar has gone. It'd be surprising if it hadn't cause the XM2 (GL2) got rid of it years ago ;)

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Old August 3rd, 2004, 11:25 AM   #3
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I think it has Ron looking at some of those screengrabs.
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Old August 7th, 2004, 03:14 PM   #4
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Black Bars

After working in TV for a few years Digital Tape VTR's, Camers etc will show black Hor. Bars when they need to be cleaned.
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Old August 9th, 2004, 03:42 AM   #5
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This was a specific issue with the XL1(S) Michael where there
was a black border around the footage due to the way the
camera worked. This is/was ALWAYS there. It can be compared
to the TV safe zone, only then always black. People were
concerned with this for web/film output.
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Old August 9th, 2004, 08:04 AM   #6
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It was actually a black bar on the bottom of the frame with a few rows of gradiated blue-tinted pixels on top of the black bar, and a few columns of blue-tinted pixels on the left side of the frame as well.
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here we go again...;o)
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Old August 9th, 2004, 08:51 AM   #8
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D.S.E. has captured some XL2 video to Vegas, so I guess I'll have to ask him to analyze those frames and confirm or deny its existence.
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Old August 9th, 2004, 04:01 PM   #9
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He has? Is the post anywhere here Chris, with hopefully links to the grabs and footage? Or at least a rundown from DSE's opinions.

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Old August 9th, 2004, 05:13 PM   #10
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He posted about it briefly in this thread, unfortunately he is currently "down under" in the middle of a VASST tour in Oz.
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