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Old August 31st, 2004, 04:55 AM   #1
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Sony beats Canon to the punch in the 16:9 25p game

Sony has released the PC350E which does 16:9 25p on a 1/3" CCD with outstanding low noise properties

see my review here

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=31187
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Old August 31st, 2004, 05:13 AM   #2
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and why does it beats the Canon? I would consider one chip
a loss over a 3 chip. Since it will have a much lower resolution
at the same pixel count.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 05:47 AM   #3
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The Sony lists "EIS" under Pro features?

Primary Color Filter for MioniDV appeared on the original Canon Optura something like, 6-7 years ago.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 05:53 AM   #4
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all valid points of course

however if you download the footage in the link provided then burn it to DVD and watch on a CRT monitor you will be pleasantly surprised
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Old August 31st, 2004, 05:58 AM   #5
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Well, that goes the same for Panasonic NV-GS400. NV-GS400 gets really close to what XL2 can capture, but just don't have the same range of controll.
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Don: what is "EIS"? Is that electronic stabilization? I know about OIS.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 04:34 PM   #7
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Rob, yes Electronic Image Stabilisation.

I looked at that link - Damned that's ugly - I'd get laughed out of the shoot taking one of those along ;)


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Old August 31st, 2004, 05:51 PM   #8
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> I would consider one chip
>a loss over a 3 chip. Since it will have a much lower resolution
>at the same pixel count.

Sensor area/light sensitivity considerations aside, a higher resolution single CCD should outperform a three CCD device in color resolution if there are at least 2x the total # of pixels. The additional pixels are needed for the color interpolation. For three chip devices with single sensors or720x480=345,600 pixels, a 3*345,600 chip device offers about one megapixel of full color resolution. The Sony sensor is listed with 3.3 Megapixels, though "camera mode" is listed as using 2 megapixels. So, I think the camera color resoltion is comparable.

As for light sensitivity, this new Sony device is listed as 5 lux. minimum, which is less sensitive than the VX-2000 3 chipper.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM   #9
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1-CCD camcorders tend to lose color saturation as the light gets marginal. With good light, they can produce an excellent image, even if not quite as saturated as 3-CCD.

It boils down to meeting the the consumer/customer's expectations.

Low light rating are often meaningless among brands, and even within a brand unless the measurement conditions are specified; e.g., shutter, aperture, gain, image IRE produced from what reflectance target, and image noise elvel.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 06:57 PM   #10
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Even if they are first it doesnt mean they are better. Anyone remember Sega Dreamcast ... ? I barely do. Sega put out the first 128-bit system, but suffered severly in sales and support. First doesnt always mean better. Thats my two cents.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 09:13 PM   #11
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I downloaded the video while at work today and I wasn't all that impressed. I've had my share of single chippers and their level of creativity is greatly reduced by the lack of manual controls and latitude found on 1/3" 3CCDs and larger.

Seems like anytime a new compact cam rolls out there is always someone claiming the image quality can compete with the larger cams. I think in the right situation with an ideal environment todays compact cams can come close but always fall short in overall performance.

I've owned a little bit of everything in the sub $4k range over the last few years and I'm not knocking the smaller cams as they are an amazing bang-for-the-buck.

Here are my cams from the last four years:

DCR-TRV120
DCR-VX2000
DSR-PDX10
PV-DV852
PV-DV953
NV-GS100
GR-DVL9000U
VL-AX1U
Optura Pi
Optura Xi
AG-DVX100A

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Anyone remember Sega Dreamcast ... ? I barely do.
Truly a great gaming system if you're using the VGA adapter and a PC monitor. Not to mention it didn't require a mod chip. :)
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Old September 30th, 2004, 07:24 PM   #12
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Besides it's made by Sony. Who'd bother. We'll sell you something, but bugger you when it comes to service. PC
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