recommend me some stuff. please

David Lach · October 23rd, 2004, 01:22 PM

Hmmm, might be a bit too tight. I have in fact that very same case that I use for all my audio gear, but I'm not sure the XL2 could fit in there.

It might fit by removing the viewfinder and putting it aside, as well as the lens, but it's a little on the tight side, and you will not be able to put anything else in it.

Ideally you'd want nothing less than 7" deep inside measurments for maximum protection. This XL2 is pretty big...

As a reference, use those measurments:

20x lens: 8" x 4" x 4" with sunshade on
XL2 body : 8" x 11" x 6"
viewfinder: 7" x 8" x 3"
on-cam mic: 8" x 2" x 2"

If you have enough room for all that, it should work.

Kevin Gilvear · October 23rd, 2004, 01:24 PM

thanks , i'll keep looking then

Kevin Gilvear · October 23rd, 2004, 01:47 PM

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=227388&is=REG

would that be ok for an xl2 also?

Robert J. Wolff · October 24th, 2004, 06:35 AM

Kevin,

You will find over time, that no matter what size case you get, it will gradually become stuffed with loads of goodies.

Add about 8" to your needed size, now.

Don't worry about "form fitted" inserts. Buy some foam stuffing from a furniture store/hardware store, and make your own inserts.

Kevin Gilvear · October 24th, 2004, 01:28 PM

suitable you reckon?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WD2V

Gary Barr · October 26th, 2004, 02:14 PM

Kevin,

Have a look at the Probag at H Prestons if you're looking for a soft bag for on the road stuff, but big enough for batts, tapes, couple other bits and bobs but not too much else(other lens etc). I got it for my XL2 and I'm happy with it.

Kevin Gilvear · October 27th, 2004, 05:32 AM

thanks. I'll give them a ring.

Kevin Gilvear · November 15th, 2004, 06:29 AM

Hey Fellas.

I got an email today from a store in the UK recommending me this budget tripod and head. Here's what they said:

A tripod such as the Manfrotto 190PRO would be good. They are the most versatile starting tripod and can take a weight of up to 5KG. We sell them for £89.95. Further details can be found using the following link
http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/cgi-bin/manmantri.asp

Depending on what you want to do a good basic head to go for would be the Manfrotto 488 ball and socket head. We sell this for £54.95. Details can be found using the following link
http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/cgi-bin/manmanhead.asp

Now I know you guys have said to me I should spend big bucks on getting a really good tripod but like I've said I can't at this moment in time. I don't intend to shake the cam all over the place or abuse it on a tripod so surely these must be ok for doing simple still shots?
If I get these I might be able to afford a TA-100 also.

Gary Barr · November 15th, 2004, 06:39 AM

Hi Kevin,

by all means mate, go for it if you just want to take statics with it and it's certainly cheap enough. then when you get the cash together get the Vision 3 or similar for proper fluid movement and quality legs. someone recommended to me the Vinten Pro 5 as a starting level tripod system a while back, and at about 250 notes I think it wasn't too bad a price. might be worth having a play with something like that in-store to see what you think. not as good obv as the dearer options but it's bound to be a decent product - most DV operators/researchers in telly (multiskillers is the euphemism TV companies like to use), use the Pro5 or similar.

Kevin Gilvear · November 15th, 2004, 06:41 AM

Thanks Gary. I'll check out a couple more then before deciding.

Kevin Gilvear · November 15th, 2004, 06:43 AM

Is this it? It looks quite nice. Not bad cost wise either. I might mull over it.

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/gimme/storereframe.php?view=item&item=vinten_pro5

Gary Barr · November 15th, 2004, 06:54 AM

that's the one, doesn't look too shabby does it. Sorry though I thought it was cheaper than that. You can get stuff cheaper than creative video - I think they're one of the most expensive. Visual Impact hire Pro5s out all the time to broadcast and sell them cheaper than that. I think I had a quote of 290 before VAT. H Prestons are not bad either.

Kevin Gilvear · November 15th, 2004, 12:10 PM

Are there several versions of the Pro 5? I found a place listing several at different prices here:

http://www.tnpbroadcast.co.uk/search.php

you'll have to type "Vinten" to see the list.

H Preston I couldn't find the exact model.

Kevin Gilvear · November 15th, 2004, 01:23 PM

OK I decided to wait a few weeks and get the vinten Pro 5. I'm close to buying my monitor but can't decide on an appropriate resolution. What do you guys work with?

I'm looking at one for £182 which has a resoloution of 440 x 234 pixels and has some good connections or one at £300 which has a resolution of 2400x480 pixels.

David Clark · November 15th, 2004, 03:55 PM

.....about the panasonic tapes, I have been told that the MQ (master) and the PQ (pro) come off the same "pancake" of tape being loaded into the shells. The MQ is in the middle, followed by the PQ, followed by consumer at either end. BTW I've had very good luck with the 83 PQ's.

October 24th, 2004, 06:35 AM	#49
Robert J. Wolff Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Adirondacks of New York Posts: 210	Kevin, You will find over time, that no matter what size case you get, it will gradually become stuffed with loads of goodies. Add about 8" to your needed size, now. Don't worry about "form fitted" inserts. Buy some foam stuffing from a furniture store/hardware store, and make your own inserts. __________________ Himself

October 23rd, 2004, 01:22 PM	#46
David Lach Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 570	Hmmm, might be a bit too tight. I have in fact that very same case that I use for all my audio gear, but I'm not sure the XL2 could fit in there. It might fit by removing the viewfinder and putting it aside, as well as the lens, but it's a little on the tight side, and you will not be able to put anything else in it. Ideally you'd want nothing less than 7" deep inside measurments for maximum protection. This XL2 is pretty big... As a reference, use those measurments: 20x lens: 8" x 4" x 4" with sunshade on XL2 body : 8" x 11" x 6" viewfinder: 7" x 8" x 3" on-cam mic: 8" x 2" x 2" If you have enough room for all that, it should work.

October 23rd, 2004, 01:24 PM	#47
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	thanks , i'll keep looking then

October 23rd, 2004, 01:47 PM	#48
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=227388&is=REG would that be ok for an xl2 also?

October 24th, 2004, 01:28 PM	#50
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	suitable you reckon? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WD2V

October 26th, 2004, 02:14 PM	#51
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	Kevin, Have a look at the Probag at H Prestons if you're looking for a soft bag for on the road stuff, but big enough for batts, tapes, couple other bits and bobs but not too much else(other lens etc). I got it for my XL2 and I'm happy with it.

October 27th, 2004, 05:32 AM	#52
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	thanks. I'll give them a ring.

November 15th, 2004, 06:29 AM	#53
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	Hey Fellas. I got an email today from a store in the UK recommending me this budget tripod and head. Here's what they said: A tripod such as the Manfrotto 190PRO would be good. They are the most versatile starting tripod and can take a weight of up to 5KG. We sell them for £89.95. Further details can be found using the following link http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/cgi-bin/manmantri.asp Depending on what you want to do a good basic head to go for would be the Manfrotto 488 ball and socket head. We sell this for £54.95. Details can be found using the following link http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/cgi-bin/manmanhead.asp Now I know you guys have said to me I should spend big bucks on getting a really good tripod but like I've said I can't at this moment in time. I don't intend to shake the cam all over the place or abuse it on a tripod so surely these must be ok for doing simple still shots? If I get these I might be able to afford a TA-100 also.

November 15th, 2004, 06:39 AM	#54
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	Hi Kevin, by all means mate, go for it if you just want to take statics with it and it's certainly cheap enough. then when you get the cash together get the Vision 3 or similar for proper fluid movement and quality legs. someone recommended to me the Vinten Pro 5 as a starting level tripod system a while back, and at about 250 notes I think it wasn't too bad a price. might be worth having a play with something like that in-store to see what you think. not as good obv as the dearer options but it's bound to be a decent product - most DV operators/researchers in telly (multiskillers is the euphemism TV companies like to use), use the Pro5 or similar.

November 15th, 2004, 06:41 AM	#55
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	Thanks Gary. I'll check out a couple more then before deciding.

November 15th, 2004, 06:43 AM	#56
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	Is this it? It looks quite nice. Not bad cost wise either. I might mull over it. http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/gimme/storereframe.php?view=item&item=vinten_pro5

November 15th, 2004, 06:54 AM	#57
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	that's the one, doesn't look too shabby does it. Sorry though I thought it was cheaper than that. You can get stuff cheaper than creative video - I think they're one of the most expensive. Visual Impact hire Pro5s out all the time to broadcast and sell them cheaper than that. I think I had a quote of 290 before VAT. H Prestons are not bad either.

November 15th, 2004, 12:10 PM	#58
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	Are there several versions of the Pro 5? I found a place listing several at different prices here: http://www.tnpbroadcast.co.uk/search.php you'll have to type "Vinten" to see the list. H Preston I couldn't find the exact model.

November 15th, 2004, 01:23 PM	#59
Kevin Gilvear Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 126	OK I decided to wait a few weeks and get the vinten Pro 5. I'm close to buying my monitor but can't decide on an appropriate resolution. What do you guys work with? I'm looking at one for £182 which has a resoloution of 440 x 234 pixels and has some good connections or one at £300 which has a resolution of 2400x480 pixels.

November 15th, 2004, 03:55 PM	#60
David Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carrollton, Texas Posts: 145	.....about the panasonic tapes, I have been told that the MQ (master) and the PQ (pro) come off the same "pancake" of tape being loaded into the shells. The MQ is in the middle, followed by the PQ, followed by consumer at either end. BTW I've had very good luck with the 83 PQ's.