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Mark Errante · January 20th, 2005, 01:48 PM

I work at a camera store in St. Louis where I get a pretty good discount on the XL2. We only have the origional version with the film grain button and wont be getting the new ones in for some time. Is it worth the wait for the new version or does it not really matter. Was anything better ADDED to the new one, or just the film grain taken away?

Thanks!

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM

It's just the film grain taken away. They placed another button on it, but that already existed or something like it (color bars I think)

I think it isn't really worth the waiting.

PS: search these boards for Canon removing film grain, there already is a post about it, with that exact information.

Good luck!

Chris Hurd · January 20th, 2005, 02:33 PM

The exact information is at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php.

Nothing has been added to the post-filmgrain version, there are no new buttons or new features. The only difference is that film grain has been taken away. The "color bars / film grain" button has been re-purposed as "color bars" only. See this thread for more info.

Zack Birlew · January 20th, 2005, 03:11 PM

I'd say go with the film grain one, the "new" version isn't different at all except for the film grain feature being removed, as has been stated already. Hey, you never know, maybe one day you'll actually find a use for the film grain feature! =)

Donald Pittelli · January 20th, 2005, 04:51 PM

if it is possible for you to wait for newer xl2 without film grain do so . unless of corse you want the film grain . my reason .first i know next to nothing about cameras its not my feild only hobbie .i do know machines .this change to the xl2 was at the factory level . it would only make sence to tweek any other areas of the camera that canon may seem fit .this happens all the time in the auto industry . options or features on a car may change from year to year .they may not tell you about inprovements in the front ball joints lets say or head gaskets and so on . i have a newer xl2 just got it from zotz i dont know if there are any other diffrances from the grain camera . but i can say i am very happy with this camera . wish you the best .dp

Mark Errante · January 20th, 2005, 05:07 PM

Thanks all. I think Im just going to get the older one. I dont mind the film grain button being there so as long as theres nothing new, Ill live with it.

Eugene Weaver · January 21st, 2005, 03:11 PM

so...why exactly did Canon remove the "film grain" feature?

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2005, 03:16 PM

Eugene, Canon's explanation is quoted at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php.

Eugene Weaver · January 21st, 2005, 03:18 PM

gotcha...just read it.

My XL2 is in front of me still in the box. I took it out and low and behold, mine has the Film Grain feature!

No big deal to me I guess...I'm guessing I'll never use it though.

Chris Hurd · January 22nd, 2005, 04:10 PM

Correct, you will never want to use it. No big deal.

Per Johan Naesje · January 24th, 2005, 04:56 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Eugene, Canon's explanation is quoted at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php. -->>>

Chris,
if you remove the last dot, the url will work...

- Per Johan

Chris Hurd · January 24th, 2005, 08:13 AM

D'oh! My mistake. Fixed! Thanks Per,

January 20th, 2005, 01:48 PM	#1
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	Worth getting new version? I work at a camera store in St. Louis where I get a pretty good discount on the XL2. We only have the origional version with the film grain button and wont be getting the new ones in for some time. Is it worth the wait for the new version or does it not really matter. Was anything better ADDED to the new one, or just the film grain taken away? Thanks!

January 20th, 2005, 02:33 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The exact information is at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php. Nothing has been added to the post-filmgrain version, there are no new buttons or new features. The only difference is that film grain has been taken away. The "color bars / film grain" button has been re-purposed as "color bars" only. See this thread for more info. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 20th, 2005, 03:11 PM	#4
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	I'd say go with the film grain one, the "new" version isn't different at all except for the film grain feature being removed, as has been stated already. Hey, you never know, maybe one day you'll actually find a use for the film grain feature! =) __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

January 20th, 2005, 04:51 PM	#5
Donald Pittelli Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: babylon ny Posts: 53	wait for the new one if it is possible for you to wait for newer xl2 without film grain do so . unless of corse you want the film grain . my reason .first i know next to nothing about cameras its not my feild only hobbie .i do know machines .this change to the xl2 was at the factory level . it would only make sence to tweek any other areas of the camera that canon may seem fit .this happens all the time in the auto industry . options or features on a car may change from year to year .they may not tell you about inprovements in the front ball joints lets say or head gaskets and so on . i have a newer xl2 just got it from zotz i dont know if there are any other diffrances from the grain camera . but i can say i am very happy with this camera . wish you the best .dp __________________ dp

January 20th, 2005, 05:07 PM	#6
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	thanks Thanks all. I think Im just going to get the older one. I dont mind the film grain button being there so as long as theres nothing new, Ill live with it.

January 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM	#2
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	It's just the film grain taken away. They placed another button on it, but that already existed or something like it (color bars I think) I think it isn't really worth the waiting. PS: search these boards for Canon removing film grain, there already is a post about it, with that exact information. Good luck!

January 21st, 2005, 03:11 PM	#7
Eugene Weaver Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Millersburg, Ohio Posts: 35	so...why exactly did Canon remove the "film grain" feature?

January 21st, 2005, 03:16 PM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Eugene, Canon's explanation is quoted at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 21st, 2005, 03:18 PM	#9
Eugene Weaver Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Millersburg, Ohio Posts: 35	gotcha...just read it. My XL2 is in front of me still in the box. I took it out and low and behold, mine has the Film Grain feature! No big deal to me I guess...I'm guessing I'll never use it though.

January 22nd, 2005, 04:10 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Correct, you will never want to use it. No big deal. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 24th, 2005, 04:56 AM	#11
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Eugene, Canon's explanation is quoted at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article12.php. -->>> Chris, if you remove the last dot, the url will work... - Per Johan

January 24th, 2005, 08:13 AM	#12
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	D'oh! My mistake. Fixed! Thanks Per, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!