AAAHHHH!!!!Can someone please help at DVinfo.net

Chris Fritsche · June 7th, 2005, 05:46 PM

So I am trying to get my footage into FCP. I am setting my in/out times in the batch capture screen, only when I hit the capture button it rewinds the tape all the way to the beginning and starts capturering from there...

I guess I should tell you. The tape with the footage on it was removed a couple of times and the camera was turned on/off a few times. I am at about the 5th section of the tape that starts counting 00.00.00.00
I am trying to capture about a 3 minute piece of film and the camera or software rewinds at the way to the beginning and starts to capture from the first place on the tape that reads 00.00.00.00

Is there a way to set the camera to not start a fresh recount everytime a tape is inserted, or am I missing a step

FC Studio (recent) Canon XL2

Richard Hunter · June 7th, 2005, 06:28 PM

Hi Chris. What happens is that the camera is seeing a section of tape with no previous recording, and it will reset the timecode to zero at this point.

One way to avoid this is to stripe the tape before using it, by recording the lens cap for the entire duration of the tape.

Another way, which is what I prefer, is to get in the habit of recording a short segment of black video (lens cap again) after shooting a session, and definitely do this before removing the tape from the camera for any reason. Then when you reinsert the tape, you just need to restart shooting from the black segment and the timecode will not be broken.

As far as capturing into FCP is concerned, I suggest you don't use batch capture for this tape. Just manually capture the whole section of interest and then trim the clips after you get them on the timeline.

Richard

Chris Fritsche · June 7th, 2005, 06:34 PM

so when you say to start shooting from the black portion of the tape after I put it back in, you mean record about 10 sec's of lenscap, and the next time I insert the tape start recording somewhere in that lens cap section..???
I think what your trying to say is not to start recording when the screen is blue, (as in no footage), is this correct

Do people really record the whol tape (lens cap) before they actually use it..??

Bill Zens · June 7th, 2005, 06:36 PM

You can always capture in analog fashion, and have FCP digitize it. (I don't use FCP, but assume you can capture analog video in it...) You won't get original timecode on your transfer, but I think that's a moot point anyways.

Richard Hunter · June 8th, 2005, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Fritsche

so when you say to start shooting from the black portion of the tape after I put it back in, you mean record about 10 sec's of lenscap, and the next time I insert the tape start recording somewhere in that lens cap section..???
I think what your trying to say is not to start recording when the screen is blue, (as in no footage), is this correct

Yes, exactly what I meant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Fritsche

Do people really record the whol tape (lens cap) before they actually use it..??

Some do, and recommend it. Personally, I have never thought it necessary, but thought I should at least let you know of the practice.

Richard

Richard Hunter · June 8th, 2005, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Zens

You can always capture in analog fashion, and have FCP digitize it. (I don't use FCP, but assume you can capture analog video in it...) You won't get original timecode on your transfer, but I think that's a moot point anyways.

Hi Bill. I'm not familiar with FCP either, but every other NLE I've used let's you capture DV manually, without having to seek for a particular timecode. Hopefully Chris will be able to find a way to do this in FCP and doesn't have to resort to capturing analogue (assuming he even has a capture card in his Mac).

Richard

Richard Stiehm · June 8th, 2005, 08:27 AM

Chris

I've noticed that the batch capture in FCP is a little unreliable....(at least in version 3 it was, I haven't tried to use it in HD yet). It seems whenever I would attempt to do a batch list, the timecode would add numbers where it shouldn't have. Like adding an hour to a one minute clip. But anyway the easy way to do it is cue up the clip and hit "now" in the bottom of the capture window. When your done hit esc. Just make sure the your preferences are set to "not abort on dropped frames" since it sounds like your tape has some timecode issues.

Rich

Chris Fritsche · June 8th, 2005, 09:56 AM

I seem to have got it figured out. All I needed to do was set my in point to at least 5 seconds into a new set for it to catch the time code, thanks for your help everyone, but I think from now on I will record some Lens cap just to be safe

June 7th, 2005, 05:46 PM	#1
Chris Fritsche Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, TX (Cypress to be exact) Posts: 169	AAAHHHH!!!!Can someone please help So I am trying to get my footage into FCP. I am setting my in/out times in the batch capture screen, only when I hit the capture button it rewinds the tape all the way to the beginning and starts capturering from there... I guess I should tell you. The tape with the footage on it was removed a couple of times and the camera was turned on/off a few times. I am at about the 5th section of the tape that starts counting 00.00.00.00 I am trying to capture about a 3 minute piece of film and the camera or software rewinds at the way to the beginning and starts to capture from the first place on the tape that reads 00.00.00.00 Is there a way to set the camera to not start a fresh recount everytime a tape is inserted, or am I missing a step FC Studio (recent) Canon XL2

June 7th, 2005, 06:28 PM	#2
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Hi Chris. What happens is that the camera is seeing a section of tape with no previous recording, and it will reset the timecode to zero at this point. One way to avoid this is to stripe the tape before using it, by recording the lens cap for the entire duration of the tape. Another way, which is what I prefer, is to get in the habit of recording a short segment of black video (lens cap again) after shooting a session, and definitely do this before removing the tape from the camera for any reason. Then when you reinsert the tape, you just need to restart shooting from the black segment and the timecode will not be broken. As far as capturing into FCP is concerned, I suggest you don't use batch capture for this tape. Just manually capture the whole section of interest and then trim the clips after you get them on the timeline. Richard

June 7th, 2005, 06:34 PM	#3
Chris Fritsche Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, TX (Cypress to be exact) Posts: 169	so when you say to start shooting from the black portion of the tape after I put it back in, you mean record about 10 sec's of lenscap, and the next time I insert the tape start recording somewhere in that lens cap section..??? I think what your trying to say is not to start recording when the screen is blue, (as in no footage), is this correct Do people really record the whol tape (lens cap) before they actually use it..??

June 7th, 2005, 06:36 PM	#4
Bill Zens Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 191	You can always capture in analog fashion, and have FCP digitize it. (I don't use FCP, but assume you can capture analog video in it...) You won't get original timecode on your transfer, but I think that's a moot point anyways.

June 8th, 2005, 08:27 AM	#7
Richard Stiehm New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 11	Chris I've noticed that the batch capture in FCP is a little unreliable....(at least in version 3 it was, I haven't tried to use it in HD yet). It seems whenever I would attempt to do a batch list, the timecode would add numbers where it shouldn't have. Like adding an hour to a one minute clip. But anyway the easy way to do it is cue up the clip and hit "now" in the bottom of the capture window. When your done hit esc. Just make sure the your preferences are set to "not abort on dropped frames" since it sounds like your tape has some timecode issues. Rich

June 8th, 2005, 09:56 AM	#8
Chris Fritsche Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, TX (Cypress to be exact) Posts: 169	I seem to have got it figured out. All I needed to do was set my in point to at least 5 seconds into a new set for it to catch the time code, thanks for your help everyone, but I think from now on I will record some Lens cap just to be safe