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Old November 17th, 2005, 12:31 PM   #1
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I’m a proud owner of an XL2. I have been playing around for about two month.
But I can’t get the settings right (I am very new In this “game”).

A friend of mine is going to sell his house and asked me to make a movie of his home. (Video Home Tour)

I have practice on my own house, but I’m not satisfied with the picture. It is very noisy…
I will like to have very clear pictures.

Is there somebody here that a nice custom preset setting for indoor filming in daylight? And good settings for outdoor.

I have the PAL version of the camera.

Hope some one will help me…

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Old November 17th, 2005, 01:03 PM   #2
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With noise, you mean if you are shooting in low-light situations, right?
You have to set your GAIN level at manual, 0db. Or -3db. But not at Automatic or anything else.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 01:29 PM   #3
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Tanks for the answer!
Yes, I had the gain to Automatic – I will try this out to morrow (in the daylight).

Are there some custom presets some one will recommend? Or are the default Custom Presets okay to use…?

Another question about the Gain: In what situations are the gain control used?
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Old November 17th, 2005, 01:51 PM   #4
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go to dvcreators.net and watch the canon exclusive video, it tells you all about manual settings.

http://dvcreators.net/media/demos/xl...aturetour.html
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Old November 17th, 2005, 02:18 PM   #5
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Old November 17th, 2005, 02:22 PM   #6
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Hi
I’m a proud owner of an XL2. I have been playing around for about two month.
But I can’t get the settings right (I am very new In this “game”).

A friend of mine is going to sell his house and asked me to make a movie of his home. (Video Home Tour)

I have practice on my own house, but I’m not satisfied with the picture. It is very noisy…
I will like to have very clear pictures.

Is there somebody here that a nice custom preset setting for indoor filming in daylight? And good settings for outdoor.

I have the PAL version of the camera.

Hope some one will help me…

Best regards

Olav

If you're shooting a home for sale the same rule applies to showing a home to people while they are their, ALL LIGHTS ON and ALL LIGHTS ON FULL. Next you're going to get better results if you can light the room with your own lighting if you don't have any get creative.

As for the camera settings, don't gain up past 3db, with all the lights on you shouldn't have to anyway. Check your white balances, sometimes outside looks better than inside and finally you can add some master ped and setup to about +2 to get a little bit more detail in the blacks.

Try this out and let us know how you did. Best of luck.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #7
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Tanks for the answer!
Yes, I had the gain to Automatic – I will try this out to morrow (in the daylight).

Are there some custom presets some one will recommend? Or are the default Custom Presets okay to use…?

Another question about the Gain: In what situations are the gain control used?
I can't help you with the custom presets because I don't have the XL2, but I can help you another way: do a search in this XL2 boards with Custom Presets. I think you'll find at least one thread with people mentioning their custom presets.

The gain... well people who want to work professional will never let it on automatic or higher then 0db I think, but that's when you mostly are working with controlled lightening (like for a short film you are shooting).
When should you use automatic or go up? When you REALLY REALLY have to shoot something in the dark and you REALLY need it (like the absolute proof that one of your neighbours is actually an alien or something). But else, it looks really noisy and that's really ugly.
With strong daylight you can use -3db, others 0db will do fine.
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Old December 3rd, 2005, 04:26 PM   #8
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I must say – Thanks!
The noise is gone :-) and this is very good!

But now I have another problem… I was taking some shoots to day on a house. And on the footage it seems like the wall outside is “alive” if you know what I mean... And the same thing on for example pictures hanging on the wall (inside the house). The frame on the pictures was also “alive”. How can this happen..?

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Old December 3rd, 2005, 05:06 PM   #9
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I must say – Thanks!
The noise is gone :-) and this is very good!

But now I have another problem… I was taking some shoots to day on a house. And on the footage it seems like the wall outside is “alive” if you know what I mean... And the same thing on for example pictures hanging on the wall (inside the house). The frame on the pictures was also “alive”. How can this happen..?

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Here is an example: http://www.lille-bill.com/alivewalls.wmv

It Is the "lines" on the house that are "moving"...
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Old December 3rd, 2005, 06:35 PM   #10
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same thing

This is my exact same problem
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Old December 3rd, 2005, 07:29 PM   #11
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Here is an example: http://www.lille-bill.com/alivewalls.wmv

It Is the "lines" on the house that are "moving"...
Run that clip back on youur camera and turn on the screen displays, see what shutter speed you were at, were you by chance shooting 24p?
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Old December 3rd, 2005, 11:56 PM   #12
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I am shooting in 25p. (Have the PAL version of the camera) - and the shutter speed was 1/50.

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Old December 4th, 2005, 02:47 AM   #13
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You can try several things... turning down the sharpness... turning up the coring and adjusting the vertical detail... In many cases footage will look different on TV than on a computer monitor... check it on both.



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Old December 4th, 2005, 03:17 AM   #14
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You can try several things... turning down the sharpness... turning up the coring and adjusting the vertical detail... In many cases footage will look different on TV than on a computer monitor... check it on both.



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I will try this out. The vertical detail should it be set to “low”?
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Old December 4th, 2005, 03:43 AM   #15
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Just something to try...


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