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Old January 23rd, 2006, 07:59 PM   #1
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Matte Box for XL2

What is the best (biggest bang for the buck) matte box for my XL2? What are you using and why do you like it?

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Old January 23rd, 2006, 09:23 PM   #2
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Chrosziel...

I'd say Chrosziel or Petroff...
I'm trying to rent one if I find a rental place dealing with xl2 4x4 matte boxes in NY.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 09:56 PM   #3
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I'd say Chrosziel or Petroff...
I'm trying to rent one if I find a rental place dealing with xl2 4x4 matte boxes in NY.
He asked for "biggest bang for the buck" and that decisively leaves those two out. Cavision is the one. Neither of the others offers a bellows shade, and that's essential. Sure, the Cavision unit has some foibles and rough edges, but these can be dealt with quite economically.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 10:25 PM   #4
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Tiffen maybe...

In that case I'd consider Tiffen also. They recently lowered their prise and you could get a new one around $600. Besides, it is very fast and comfortable to use.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 11:09 PM   #5
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The Filterflex? There is no mention of it on their site. I can only find these on eBay, and only from time-to-time. Looks good, but without the bellows or french flag, it's of limited application.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 11:12 PM   #6
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Actually, isn't the key qustion, "How big's your buck?"

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Old January 23rd, 2006, 11:23 PM   #7
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As big as the average Joe.

I'm just looking for the best value.

You can buy a Porche or a Corvette and get there just as fast in either only one is half the price.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 11:52 PM   #8
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I'm just looking for the best value. You can buy a Porche or a Corvette and get there just as fast in either only one is half the price.
Just about any of the cheap matte boxes will be fine, right up until the moment you need to add a wide angle adapter or a tele-converter. Then, you'll need one of the more expensive "wide angle" matte boxes from a major manufacturer. Be sure to check the "outside diameter" of the lens in question to be certain it will fit the "inside diameter" of the matte box you're thinking about buying. Oftentimes the affordable brands have limited application, particularly when you're using specialty lenses. Also, consider the value of rods support when making price comparisons. Hope that helps.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 11:03 AM   #9
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Century Optics makes a pretty nice widescreen mattebox for the XL2. Saw it at NAB last year. You might want to check their site.

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Old January 24th, 2006, 11:16 PM   #10
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I suggest Chrosziel, or Cinetech. They're expensive, but worth it. As pointed out, be sure that if you are adding a wide angle adapter, that the mattebox won't cause vignetting.

I used the Tiffen filterflex, it was pretty good. I'm not sure that they are still manufactured, though. Call Tiffen.

Keep in mind that you may want to use the matte box on other cameras, either rentals, or if you think you might be buying a bigger/better/different camera in the future. A friend uses his Chrosziel for his DVX and for his Bolex. It's worth thinking about/creating your equipment master plan. I think he has to tweak the bracket a bit when switching between the two. The bracket and rods are helpful in making the rig fit other cameras.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 02:49 PM   #11
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Arri LMB5 Clamp-On for XL2

I found that Arri's LMB5 clamp-on mattebox that was made for the Zeiss Standard primes works perfectly for both the Canon XL2 Zooms. It mounts quickly and easily and takes the 4x5.6 sized Panavison filters.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 07:14 PM   #12
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I have the CAVISION Mattebox (http://www.cavision.com/matteboxes/4...4x4bellows.htm) and have used it for years. First with my GL1 and now my XL2. It's great. I love it. Sure it'd be nice to have the Chroziel, but not for $2000 or whatever it is.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 09:18 PM   #13
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What's the purpose of a Matte Box?
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Old February 2nd, 2006, 02:03 AM   #14
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To put in 4x4 filters for example, or to attach wings on and to have an extended sunshade with a french flag.
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