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Old May 12th, 2006, 09:59 AM   #16
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Well, the problem there is that the hand-cranked movies varied in frame rate and were often much slower than 24 fps -- 8, 12, 16, 18 . . . all were common.

But you've got the right idea -- if you use a 1/24 shutter in 24p and then speed it up 200% on a 24p timeline, you get the eqivalent of 12 fps film projected at 24 fps and it may get you the look you're seeking.
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Old May 12th, 2006, 10:07 AM   #17
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Well, the problem there is that the hand-cranked movies varied in frame rate and were often much slower than 24 fps -- 8, 12, 16, 18 . . . all were common.

But you've got the right idea -- if you use a 1/24 shutter in 24p and then speed it up 200% on a 24p timeline, you get the eqivalent of 12 fps film projected at 24 fps and it may get you the look you're seeking.
I will have to see what that looks like. I would guess 200% would be too much of a speed increase. 18fps equiv may be better.

But we seem to be straying a little from the original XL2 content

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Old May 12th, 2006, 02:42 PM   #18
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Colin after you try some of these settings suggested to you it would be great if you can post a frame grab and show us what you got.
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Old May 12th, 2006, 02:50 PM   #19
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Colin after you try some of these settings suggested to you it would be great if you can post a frame grab and show us what you got.
That is a good suggestion Scott. Once I have played around a bit I will certainly do that.

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Old May 12th, 2006, 06:52 PM   #20
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Just do what I said =o)

David I respect your opinion but every professional DP I know uses 1/48 shutter to recreate the perfect film motion cadence. Cameras like the Varicam which I use quite often have a shutter off setting which is equivalent to 1/48



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