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Old June 9th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #1
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Wireless Mic EMERGENCY!!!

I've got a wedding tomorrow afternoon and I need help on figuring out how to record a wireless mic AND the Front Mic at the same time. I've tried pouring over that horrible manual Canon gives out, but it doesn't answer squat.

I'm using an XLR adapter to connect the receiver to the camcorder; I'd like to know how to record two ways: a wireless mic and front mic together, and two XLR connected wireless mics together.

I REALLY need help on this!
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Old June 9th, 2007, 08:02 AM   #2
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I wouldn't stake my life on it, but I believe you can record with FOUR channels on the XL2 if you drop the recording mode from 16-bit to 12-bit. I would run some tests to see if you can deal with the loss in recording fidelity.
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Old June 9th, 2007, 10:25 AM   #3
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Yeah, the problem with dropping bits is that once dropped, I can't change it back to 16-bit again without some serious post-production editing problems. For instance, if I record in 2-channel 16 bit and then want to record on 4-channel 12 bit for a separate scene, during editing the software won't be able to understand the sudden bit change in the audio. It gets all mangled up.

I know I'm just doing it incorrectly, but there IS a way to record both front mic and XLR wireless mic. I just can't figure it out. I've tried every setting and I can't get both signals through.

Is there someone who has used wireless mics who can give me some tips? Anything would help.
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Old June 9th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #4
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There was a pretty active thread discussing this topic as recently as yesterday: click me.

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Yeah, the problem with dropping bits is that once dropped, I can't change it back to 16-bit again without some serious post-production editing problems. For instance, if I record in 2-channel 16 bit and then want to record on 4-channel 12 bit for a separate scene, during editing the software won't be able to understand the sudden bit change in the audio. It gets all mangled up.
Vegas will automatically resample in these situations. If your NLE will not do that, then try resampling your clips manually. You shouldn't have any post problems.

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I know I'm just doing it incorrectly, but there IS a way to record both front mic and XLR wireless mic. I just can't figure it out. I've tried every setting and I can't get both signals through.
There is no way to do it other than by using 4 channels at 12-bit/32k. The front mic is stereo, and stereo is two channels. Therefore if you want to use any other mic at the same time, you will have to record in 4-channel/12-bit/32k mode.
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Old June 9th, 2007, 12:15 PM   #5
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Please use the 'search' function. This forum is literally blanketed with this topic and detailed instructions.
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Old June 9th, 2007, 12:17 PM   #6
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..and don't forget your little 'audio monitor' button to monitor the audio coming in through ch3/4. By default it is set to monitor ch 1/2. You can push it once to monitor ch 3/4, and one more time to monitor 1,2,3,4 mix.

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Old June 9th, 2007, 12:20 PM   #7
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I've tried that. It picks it up during recording; I can see it in the LCD. But when I play it back on the VCR mode all I can get is the Front Mic. When I turn the front mic off and test the wireless, no sound! It will only record the front mic, no matter what setting I use.

What the heck is going on ???!!!
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If you are trying to hear the ch 3/4 audio by running the cam control through your NLE, you need to set you app preferences to ch 3/4 specifically, otherwise you will likely only hear the tracks from 1/2, even though 3/4 is on the tape.
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Again, this has all been covered many, many times in other threads. Please do a search.
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