Please include flip image option for Mini35 C at DVinfo.net

Jonas Nystrom · February 19th, 2008, 05:46 PM

In the next firmware update for the H1, please include a flip image option. The MINI35 C from PStechnik will start shipping in March.

Nick Hiltgen · February 19th, 2008, 11:12 PM

seconded! Are they really going to start shipping them in march? They've been pushing the release for over a year now.

Michael Galvan · February 19th, 2008, 11:22 PM

I talked with ZGC about this, and apparently March is the month!

Anton Galimzyanov · February 20th, 2008, 01:46 AM

do you know how much?

Floris van Eck · February 20th, 2008, 07:38 AM

Did you contact Canon about this?

Dave Gosley · February 21st, 2008, 03:30 AM

Hi Gents

Hoping not to enflame you with a dumb question but what is a Mini35 please?

Thanks

Per Johan Naesje · February 21st, 2008, 03:47 AM

Dave, here's a link:

http://www.pstechnik.de/en/digitalfilm-mini35.php

Michael Galvan · February 21st, 2008, 08:23 AM

and here is the minic specific for the Canon XL cameras ...

http://www.pstechnik.de/en/digitalfi...35-compact.php

Chris Hurd · February 21st, 2008, 08:52 AM

Dave, see also our dedicated P+S Technik Mini35 / PRO35 forum:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=58

Luis de la Cerda · February 22nd, 2008, 02:35 AM

AFAIK, The H1 already has an image flip built in when using non standard lenses, which in this case, would ring true. :)

Jonas Nystrom · February 23rd, 2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis de la Cerda

AFAIK, The H1 already has an image flip built in when using non standard lenses, which in this case, would ring true. :)

???

It has not, as far as I (or we) know. (has been discussed before on the forum). H1 have only flip EVF. This will only affects the EVF display, and not the video signal.

If you don't have any secret work around (please tell us ;-).

Chris Hurd · February 23rd, 2008, 10:29 AM

Yes currently the XL H1 can flip the EVF image but not the recorded image.

The EVF flip option was tailor made for this particular P+S adapter, the feature has been in the camera all this time but this adapter is the first one that will enable the use of the EVF flip option (it works only if the XL lens is off the camera).

Some folks won't like hearing this, but in my opinion the option to flip the recorded image in-camera probably will not happen. Why draw on the camera's processor resources, possibly delaying the recording by another frame or two, for something that can be done in post? They're probably going to say "well, at least we're flipping it in the EVF" and leave it at that.

Jonas Nystrom · February 23rd, 2008, 04:08 PM

Chris, you may be right.

But as the XL H1 EVF is not the best, it sure should be nice to have a, for example component flip output (I think it's impossible and the EVF is not sharp enough for any 35 mm adapter, you need extra monitoring for focusing). Anyway it could be an option for those dp's who want to use it. I think JVC HD200 (or 250) has it, so it shouldn't be impossible...

Question; I'm just curious - doesn't the EVF flip work with Redrock for example?

Matt Ryan · February 26th, 2008, 10:32 PM

Just got an email from Chris at zgc today and was told they are getting the mini35c in at the end of this week and will start shipping orders early next week!! Im very excited!

Nick Hiltgen · February 27th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Awesome! I'm looking forward to someone reviewing one of these!

February 19th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#1
Jonas Nystrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 306	Please include flip image option for Mini35 C In the next firmware update for the H1, please include a flip image option. The MINI35 C from PStechnik will start shipping in March. __________________ Jonas Nyström, DoP :: HOT SHOT® SWEDEN :: www.hotshot.nu :: RED #1567, RED 18-50mm T3 :: XL A1, Letus Extreme :: XL H1, 20X & 6X lens (for sale) :: www.vimeo.com/nystrom

February 19th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#2
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	seconded! Are they really going to start shipping them in march? They've been pushing the release for over a year now. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

February 19th, 2008, 11:22 PM	#3
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	I talked with ZGC about this, and apparently March is the month! __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

February 21st, 2008, 03:30 AM	#6
Dave Gosley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 226	Deep breath - hold the steam... Hi Gents Hoping not to enflame you with a dumb question but what is a Mini35 please? Thanks __________________ http://www.videoproductionshampshire.co.uk

February 21st, 2008, 03:47 AM	#7
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Dave, here's a link: http://www.pstechnik.de/en/digitalfilm-mini35.php __________________ - Per Johan

February 20th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#4
Anton Galimzyanov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 53	do you know how much?

February 20th, 2008, 07:38 AM	#5
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Did you contact Canon about this?

February 21st, 2008, 08:23 AM	#8
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	and here is the minic specific for the Canon XL cameras ... http://www.pstechnik.de/en/digitalfi...35-compact.php __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

February 21st, 2008, 08:52 AM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Dave, see also our dedicated P+S Technik Mini35 / PRO35 forum: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=58 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 22nd, 2008, 02:35 AM	#10
Luis de la Cerda Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 181	AFAIK, The H1 already has an image flip built in when using non standard lenses, which in this case, would ring true. :)

February 23rd, 2008, 10:29 AM	#12
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Yes currently the XL H1 can flip the EVF image but not the recorded image. The EVF flip option was tailor made for this particular P+S adapter, the feature has been in the camera all this time but this adapter is the first one that will enable the use of the EVF flip option (it works only if the XL lens is off the camera). Some folks won't like hearing this, but in my opinion the option to flip the recorded image in-camera probably will not happen. Why draw on the camera's processor resources, possibly delaying the recording by another frame or two, for something that can be done in post? They're probably going to say "well, at least we're flipping it in the EVF" and leave it at that. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 23rd, 2008, 04:08 PM	#13
Jonas Nystrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 306	Chris, you may be right. But as the XL H1 EVF is not the best, it sure should be nice to have a, for example component flip output (I think it's impossible and the EVF is not sharp enough for any 35 mm adapter, you need extra monitoring for focusing). Anyway it could be an option for those dp's who want to use it. I think JVC HD200 (or 250) has it, so it shouldn't be impossible... Question; I'm just curious - doesn't the EVF flip work with Redrock for example? __________________ Jonas Nyström, DoP :: HOT SHOT® SWEDEN :: www.hotshot.nu :: RED #1567, RED 18-50mm T3 :: XL A1, Letus Extreme :: XL H1, 20X & 6X lens (for sale) :: www.vimeo.com/nystrom

February 26th, 2008, 10:32 PM	#14
Matt Ryan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hollywood, CA. Posts: 110	mini35c is shiiping friday Just got an email from Chris at zgc today and was told they are getting the mini35c in at the end of this week and will start shipping orders early next week!! Im very excited!

February 27th, 2008, 12:34 AM	#15
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Awesome! I'm looking forward to someone reviewing one of these! __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...