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Old May 12th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #196
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I think it's safe to say that Sony upped the game by going with 1/2" chips. The consumer camera's can stick with 1/4 and 1/3 chips. But for "prosumer" gear the game is now 1/2" chips.

It's not about legacy or about "what makes sense" based on anecdotal historical trends. It's about staying competitive in a marketplace where PR and technical buzz words sell product. And the new buzz words will be/already is 1/2". You might want to throw 10-bit and tapeless in there too. (Note: You could almost hear the giggling from the FreshDV crowd as the Canon rep did his best to "sell" HDV, tape and interlaced to that tough crowd.)

I don't think Canon has much of a choice but to move on from 1/3" CCDs. They already pushed the technical buzz word limit by using "interlaced" CCDs rather than "progressive" CCDs. The H2 will HAVE to be a progressive camera.

The first question is what type of sensor will Canon go with? What size? What resolution?

The second question is what type of codec will Canon go with? What bit rate? What color depth?

The third question is what type of recording medium will Canon choose? Solid state or tape? Physical media?

If the answers to those three questions require a new generation of glass (and the mostly likely will) and form factor, then I would bet that Canon will introduce the successor to the XL with something else.

This very well may be the last of the XL cameras.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #197
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Anyone know when this will be coming out in the UK?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:11 PM   #198
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As far as I know, it should be shipping in late June worldwide.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM   #199
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is it using the same digic ii chip as hv30?
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Old May 28th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #200
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Digic DV II HD
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Old June 6th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #201
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It looks like the magnify will work at all times when using the camera. What's cool is with the new EVF 2 cable, you can connect to an external monitor and have everything that shows up in the EVF appear on the monitor (including magnify and variable peaking). Should help nicely when focusing using 35mm adapters.

The one thing that sucks though is the magnify cannont be turned off on the HD-SDI out, so although you can use it during record now, it will still output through the HD-SDI. You can only disable recording of magnify on tape.

This is unfortunate for wanting to record a live stream via HD-SDI.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 02:05 PM   #202
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That's both cool and suck at the same time.
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:40 AM   #203
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Hey all,

since the XL-H1s is supposed to be out (or is it?), has anyone tried it yet? Is there any improvement in image quality or color rendering with their new Digic DV II chip when compared to an XL-H1? Or is that chip supposed to do something else?
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:44 AM   #204
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The Digic DV II processor isn't brand new. It's been in the previous XL H1 model all along and is also used in the XH series camcorders. There will be a difference in color rendering between the H1 and the new H1S/H1A because the range of custom preset adjustment in the new cameras has been expanded among the color parameters (to match the XH series adjustment scale). Hope this helps,
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Old June 9th, 2008, 09:17 AM   #205
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Thanks for the info Chris, as usual you're the omniscient and all-knowing guy around! (and only 4 minutes after my post at that!)

By the way, I had a quick question for you : will you create a XL-H1s/a watchdog page as you did with the every other XL models?
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Old June 9th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #206
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An H1A / H1S Watchdog section is indeed in the works, but I've been reluctant to put it up, because the entire articles / reviews section of DV Info Net is undergoing some extensive remodeling. The new site design is pretty close to being finalized and most of the existing content has already been ported over. You'll see an announcement about it pretty soon.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #207
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It looks like the magnify will work at all times when using the camera. What's cool is with the new EVF 2 cable, you can connect to an external monitor and have everything that shows up in the EVF appear on the monitor (including magnify and variable peaking). Should help nicely when focusing using 35mm adapters.

The one thing that sucks though is the magnify cannont be turned off on the HD-SDI out, so although you can use it during record now, it will still output through the HD-SDI. You can only disable recording of magnify on tape.

This is unfortunate for wanting to record a live stream via HD-SDI.
After talking with Canon today, it looks like the Magnify option is the same as on the XL-H1. It will only work when you are not recording.

That's very unfortunate ...
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Old June 12th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #208
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Actually no that is not correct. You certainly do have the option to record the magnified image:

Menu > Custom Function > 20. Custom Rec. > Magnify Rec. > On

That's taken directly from the XL H1S / H1A owner's manual (pages 46 and 106).
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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #209
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Actually no that is not correct. You certainly do have the option to record the magnified image:

Menu > Custom Function > 20. Custom Rec. > Magnify Rec. > On

That's taken directly from the XL H1S / H1A owner's manual (pages 46 and 106).
I'm confused ... that's what I thought. But according to Canon (part of my email below):

Dear Mr. Galvan:

Thank you for your interest in the XL H1S.

Magnifying is only available while in record pause mode. It is not
available while recording.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:32 PM   #210
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Hi Michael, without mentioning any names so as not to unnecessarily embarrass anyone at CUSA, you have to keep in mind that their Video Division is a pretty small staff with what is usually an overwhelming amount of work to get through on a daily basis. Obviously the email you received came from someone who did not thoroughly research your question. Meanwhile, take it from me and from the printed manual:

Custom Function > 20. Custom Rec. > Magnify Rec. > On

If the camera couldn't record the magnified image, then "Magnify Rec." wouldn't be an option, would it?

Again, this capability is mentioned *twice* in the owner's manual. It's not wrong.
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