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Old April 21st, 2008, 10:40 AM   #1
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Green screen preset ?

I just sold my XL2 and am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my XL H1. I have a green screen shoot to do in a couple of weeks. I was wondering if anyone could recommend a Chroma Key preset or perhaps just some tips. I've been reading over the manual for the HL H1. It sure is a lot more involved than the XL2.

I will be shooting in DV not via SDI.

A preset of some type would sure come in handy.

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Old April 21st, 2008, 01:00 PM   #2
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Hey Tim I've had good luck with my DSC presets they seem to give the most natural color. I would (if I were you) make sure I have some minus green gel on hand for an edge light and, you know, an evenly lit green screen. THis si the way i've done it for my past 5 and have had excellent results.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 06:51 PM   #3
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Thanks... I'll check it out. I really appreciate the feedback!

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Old April 21st, 2008, 08:44 PM   #4
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Use even light on the green screen and keep it 1/2 stop under your foreground. I have had excellent results with my XL-H1. We shoot green screen all the time.
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 12:21 AM   #5
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I suggest turning sharpening down to -9 (if you don't have it there already) for HDV recording. That will cut down on compression, sharpening, and keying artifacts.
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 06:23 AM   #6
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Thanks again! This is all very helpful.

Nick, where do I find the DSC preset?
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 10:17 AM   #7
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Tim, you'll find Nick's preset here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....8&postcount=66
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 11:27 AM   #8
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Thanks again!

What exactly was this preset created for?

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Old April 22nd, 2008, 03:28 PM   #9
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The preset was created as a request, it's intended to maximize the accuracy in color so that someone could have the most versatility in post. It's not so much of a "look" as it is a really good starting point (after white balance of course)

I hope they work out well for you, please note that the 60i and 24f are different!
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 03:49 PM   #10
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Thanks again!

In which way do 60i and 24f differ than the XL2? Also... would you recommend 60i or 24f for green screen?
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 05:58 PM   #11
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Don't have an XL2 so I'm not sure, I know there is a slight red shift (I think) between the 60i and the 24f. If it's solely a green screen thing I believe that 60i yields a sharper moving image, but I think 24f looks better.

(sorry I can't be of more help, more or less I'd say it's pretty much an aesthetic choice)
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 06:07 PM   #12
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I am working on a spoof of American Idol. The actors are all in some pretty colorful costumes. I really want to give it the look and feel of American Idol. I was thinking anything 24P/F would give it a more cinematic look. Perhaps I should shoot 60i for more of a video look. However, if the chroma keying is going to work best in 24f I may go that way.

I will be getting my XL H1 before the end of the week. I don't even have the camera yet and I feel overwhelmed.

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Old April 23rd, 2008, 09:45 AM   #13
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if you're spoofing american idol (or just about anything in reality TV) I would say go with the 60i I don't think that the 24f or 60i is inherently better or worse for green screen. The other plus in this case is if you decide you want a progressive look you can deinterlace in post.
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 09:48 AM   #14
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Thanks again Nick! When the project is complete I'll post a link from this post with my final settings.
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 01:09 PM   #15
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No problem Tim, enjoy your new camera!
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