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Canon XL H Series HDV Camcorders
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Old July 8th, 2008, 06:25 AM   #16
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Dear Gregory,

One side benefit of using the Flash XDR is the external audio and timecode will be automatically embedded with the incoming HD-SDI signal on the fly.

The live HD-SDI output has the audio and timecode embedded. This is a perfect match for the original Canon XL H1.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 08:20 AM   #17
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SORRY!! YOU HAVE THE NEW XL H1S!! DUUHHHH, it embeds the audio!!
Hey Gregory,

I actually used my older XL H1 for the Killer Headline Shoot as I didn't get the "S" version till a week later.

We shot double system sound, where we jam synced the XL H1 to an Edirol R4-Pro. I just matched the audio and video through timecode in Final Cut Pro.

That's the one thing I like a lot about the XL series ... the versatility.

The main reason behind the XL H1S purchase, is I will be DP'ing a full feature in late summer.early september. This movie has name talent, and a solid script, along with a very cool director. We were originally going to shoot Red, but they liked the look of the stuff I've done with the XL, and I won't be able to get the camera till right before the shoot, so I've decided to stick with the XL for this shoot (I'll outfit it for high-end shooting).
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Old July 8th, 2008, 06:18 PM   #18
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Michael,
love the look of this spot and i'm still curious to know how you did the transfer in Cinema Tools. I have the same setup with the AJA i/O HD, and the only way that I can possibly get audio embedded is if I use my Convergent Design (HD Connect SI) device. Your assistance is needed and I appreciate it. GREAT JOB!!
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:00 AM   #19
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Michael,
love the look of this spot and i'm still curious to know how you did the transfer in Cinema Tools. I have the same setup with the AJA i/O HD, and the only way that I can possibly get audio embedded is if I use my Convergent Design (HD Connect SI) device. Your assistance is needed and I appreciate it. GREAT JOB!!
Thanks Gregory.

I simply just took the captures from Final Cut Pro, went into each file and saved them so they started on the first "P" frame and ended on the last "I" frame of the cadence, and did the reverse telecine with Cinema Tools.

If you are using the camera as the audio source, I would probably run the analog audio outs of the camera into the analog ins of the IOHD and combine that with the HD-SDI signal. Or if you are using a field mixer/recorder, run the outputs to the IOHD.

Does that help?
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Old July 10th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #20
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Michael,
thanks for the info
"went into each file and saved them so they started on the first "P" frame and ended on the last "I" frame of the cadence," Don't mean to sound ignorant so i will ask because i don't know and i'm confident enough to say i don't know, but where do i find the "p" frame and "I" frame? I have never been encountered with this so I apologize if you are saying "What!"LOL
Dan,
I also am looking at the FLASH XDR. I know that it supports 1080p, but will that work with the XL H1 seeing that it's 1080i? Will it do the conversion itself from 1080i to 1080p, or does the camera have to be 1080p?
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Old July 10th, 2008, 10:09 AM   #21
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Dear Gregory,

The Flash XDR fully supports 1080i60, such as the output from a Canon XL H1.

It also fully supports the 30p and 24p modes of the Canon XL H1.
(Canon calls their's 30f and 24f - these are supported.)

The Flash XDR also supports 720p but this does not apply to the Canon XL H1.

The Flash XDR does not convert 1080i to 1080p.

However, many 24p cameras put a 24p videostream into a 1080i videostream before putting it out the HD-SDI port.

This 24p videostream embedded in 1080i is properly and efficiently handled by the Flash XDR.

Only the necessary 24p frames are actually recorded, with the redundant frames being discarded.

So, in this sense, a 24p embedded in a 1080i is converted to 1080p24.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 08:00 PM   #22
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Thank you Dan! That's going to be a GREAT unit when it arrives!!
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