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Old June 2nd, 2005, 10:49 AM   #91
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Canon new pro prosumer HD camera specs

I'm guessing it will have 3 modes:

720/1-60p, 19 Mbps
1080/50-60i, 25 Mbps
1080/1-30p, 25 Mbps

It will record in HDV or Blu-Ray format.

It will use one 2/3" CMOS by Altasens.

It will have new line of interchangable lenses

It will be camera with which indies will make their blockbuster movies.

It will be under $10,000 and will accept Canon 35 mm lenses.

Competing cameras from 7,000 to 70,000 dollars will hardly sell at all.

It will become bestseller pro camera.

It will be available at NAB 2006.

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Old June 6th, 2005, 01:33 AM   #92
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i'm curious, why aren't existing XL lenses capable of HD lenses, cause of thread-size?

also, why don't broadcast HD spec have 1080p and just 1080i? bandwidth?
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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:42 AM   #93
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Well I hardly believe anything HDV at those bitrates could stop a 70K camera from selling.

Now, if they got another codec, then they could do something really really fancy.

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I'm guessing it will have 3 modes:

720/1-60p, 19 Mbps
1080/50-60i, 25 Mbps
1080/1-30p, 25 Mbps

It will record in HDV or Blu-Ray format.

It will use one 2/3" CMOS by Altasens.

It will have new line of interchangable lenses

It will be camera with which indies will make their blockbuster movies.

It will be under $10,000 and will accept Canon 35 mm lenses.

Competing cameras from 7,000 to 70,000 dollars will hardly sell at all.

It will become bestseller pro camera.

It will be available at NAB 2006.

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Old June 6th, 2005, 06:09 AM   #94
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i'm curious, why aren't existing XL lenses capable of HD lenses, cause of thread-size?

also, why don't broadcast HD spec have 1080p and just 1080i? bandwidth?
The existing lenses don't resolve enough lines for HD.

I wonder too why films are not transmitted 1080p24. It compresses easier, needs lower bit rate than 1080/60i. I guess when they developed 1080i, things were harder do than now.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 10:29 AM   #95
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also, why don't broadcast HD spec have 1080p and just 1080i? bandwidth?

My understanding is that a consensus couldn’t be reached on whether the formats should be progressive or interlaced, so 720 became 'progressive' only and 1080 became 'interlaced'. Now we also see the 1080 in progressive as well….
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Old June 6th, 2005, 10:50 AM   #96
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I think it was different. Original HDTV broadcast started in Japan, was analog and 60i interlaced footage transfered to 60i SD better. 1080p24 needs about same bit rate, if not lower than 720p60. Films and most shows are shot 24p anyway so unless it's sports, etc., 1080i60 and 720p60 not make sense. MPEG4 allow 1080p60 at 19 Mbps. It will be HDTV future.

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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:30 PM   #97
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if it's pretty feasible, are there talks from HD consortium to revise the HD broadcast standards to include 1080p? i would think that the current boxes would simply need firmware updates. what do you think? any news?
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Old June 7th, 2005, 04:53 PM   #98
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1080p is way in future. They need sell you 1080i first, when profits from 1080i go down, suddenly there will be 1080p HDTV. By going in steps, profits multiply better.

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Old August 9th, 2005, 03:32 PM   #99
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I have received an email about the new Canon HD cameras shipping in about a month.

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Old August 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM   #100
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Great !

What Models did they mention ? Can you forward the message to

james@ontherhodes.com

? Sorry but I am excited to know what they are going to do
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Old August 9th, 2005, 04:03 PM   #101
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better yet Stephen, can you paste that email here on DVI for us to read? =).
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Old August 9th, 2005, 04:06 PM   #102
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So are the new Canon's HDV or HD?
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Old August 28th, 2005, 04:42 PM   #103
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I have no email or anything to send to anyone, but I can tell you that the XL2 will be discontinued 9/5/05 and the GL2 is to be discontinued on 12/31/05...so that implies that Canon will be announcing at least one new HD camcorder VERY soon...but on the other hand what happens if they prop everything above the Optura 600? that would totally suck...
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I can tell you that the XL2 will be discontinued 9/5/05 and the GL2 is to be discontinued on 12/31/05
If you say so... but you've gotta buy beers for all of us a week from Tuesday if you're wrong. Glad this is Area 51....
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I hope I regret being so sure in my opinion/guess, but I would be shocked if they were already discontinuing the XL2 next month. No way this is going to happen so soon after it's release.

I'll wait for that beer, too.

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