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THE HVX200 does have the advantage to easy 4:2:2 recording for bluescreen shots. Of course most bluescreen work is done in a studio environment so the SDI from the XLH1 would actually be of higher quality since it is uncompressed. While the HVX200 should also be able to do uncompressed HD video it would only be able to do this via analog component outputs. The XLH1 keeps it all digital for a very clean 4:2:2 signal.
The HVX200 still has the advantage of less compression on the run however. No matter how good of a camera the XLH1 is it still uses a 1080i form of HDV with very high compression. |
Yes, but how much less compression. Are 1.4 Gbps out the SDI port and 25 Mbps HDDV the only options? Or is DVCPRO HD at 100 Mbps also available (tape and or SDI)?
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Is the HD SDI or the SD SDI output usable or worth using after the tape has been recorded and the signal has been compressed into the 25Mbps HDV ?
Will it retain the 4:2:2 out of HDV through SDI? Is it exclusively to be used connected to an HDCAM SR deck or BETACAM deck while recording? |
No! Once it has been recorded as DV it has been downsampled to 4:1:1 (SD and HD). Furthermore, the HD has been run through MPEG temporal compression. MPEG temporal compression results in a lovely HD picture until something moves. That's why my enthusiasm is dampened. If my only options are HDDV and 1.4 Gbit SDI which I can't practically capture I'm not so enthusiastic. I like to shoot in the woods - not in a studio.
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If the output was compressed to say a 50Mb/s codec first, that would work. |
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Compressing a real-time HD stream isn't as hard as you'd think - the CPUs and RAM are fast enough - you just have to pick a reasonable compromise in terms of a codec to go to... and there are some really promising candidates out there. -Steve |
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Basically you're asking for the equivalent hardware of a BlackMagic card, a high end CPU and RAM, and a dedicated hard drive... and that option is available to you - for the price of a couple P2 cards. -Steve |
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Yes it is just like P2 - a non-linear storage method, but would be cheaper and is more "present" proof. |
I forgot to mention that both SD and HD undergo spatial compression (DCT) before being written to tape. This is lossy.
I agree that something like DVCPRO HD @ 100 mbps would have made this camera the cat's meow though you'd only get 15 min on a casette (unless they allowed it to take the next size up -SWAP and $ problems there) and if they have to license this from Sony (?) that would be more $ still. |
Well, well, well, so Canon actually did what I have been whining for!
An HDSDI output on this new camera. COOL! The thing is I really wanted either 720P SDI (SMPTE 292) or 1080P@24 FPS. That said, HDSDI output is really a huge step forward in bringing a professional feature to a prosumer camera.. Now we can hook up to all kinds of decks and interfaces. Things are getting VERY interesting!!! I have lots of questions: 1) Will Canon will be able to offer 720P or 1080P@24 FPS in the near future? (Progressive minds will want to know if those HD flavors might be a firmware update in the next few months?) 2)Can this camera output standard def. SDI now? 3) Does anyone know if this camera uses 1/3" chips? 4) What's the chip set pixel count? 5) Can one use the old XL EOS adapter and Canon 35mm glass? |
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2) Yes 3) 3 x 1/3" CCDs 4) 1440x1080 effective 5) I believe so. |
Jacques, I think that your question 2 to 5 are already answered on the XLH1 watchdog's page.
http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxlh1/xlh1skinny.php The CCD block in the XL H1 utilizes three one-third inch 1.67 megapixel CCD image sensors which provide an effective target area of 1440 x 1080 pixels. The earlier EF adapter for the Canon XL series is of course fully compatible with the XL H1, and most of the Canon EOS line of 35mm still photography lenses may be used for HD, the caveat being a 7.2x multiplication factor which renders most all EOS lenses to an extreme telephoto field of view. |
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