I have the XLH1 for the weekend at DVinfo.net

Kaku Ito · September 30th, 2005, 08:35 AM

Is there anything specific you folks want me to try?

Chris Hurd · September 30th, 2005, 08:38 AM

Hooray for Kaku! Once again you are my hero!

Please shoot some HDV in the 24F mode, preferably with some movement within the frame and some moving of the camera. As always I will be happy to host your clips here at DV Info Net. Thanks in advance, Kaku!

Antoine Fabi · September 30th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Wow !
A working model !

Kaku,

If you could shoot some high contrast scenes with different gamma settings (black stretch, knee presets) etc..., it would be very nice.

thanks !

Mike Marriage · September 30th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Resolution charts please.

Also can you try some real world harsh conditions. For example midday direct sun (weather allowing!!)

Please shoot something with people in too. Some carefully lit CUs and MCUs, maybe a little scene to give an idea of skin tone :)

If you can do the tests as a side-by-side with another camera, that would be brilliant. Maybe an XL2 or a DVX.

Many thanks, sorry to be so demanding!

Jean-Philippe Archibald · September 30th, 2005, 09:03 AM

A side by side with the Z1 would be great too...

If you can do some testing with the SD lenses (16 X manual, 3X) in SD resolution, but also in HD. I know that theses lenses doesn't resolve enough for HD, but indeed, I would like to see some footages taken with these lenses

Kaku Ito · September 30th, 2005, 09:24 AM

It was deliver to me by the person from Canon lense distributor today. I did not even ask for it. It does say that it is preproduction model, but it seems all concrete looking to me.

I only have the HD lense provided. I don't have Z1 but I have FX1 and HC1, I would do my usual comparison test if you know what I did before.

I will do my best to cover as much as possible.

Christopher C. Murphy · September 30th, 2005, 09:26 AM

Kaku, your celebrity has made its way into Canon's corporate procedures!

Greg Boston · September 30th, 2005, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Philippe Archibald

A side by side with the Z1 would be great too...

If you can do some testing with the SD lenses (16 X manual, 3X) in SD resolution, but also in HD. I know that theses lenses doesn't resolve enough for HD, but indeed, I would like to see some footages taken with these lenses

You know, I never thought about the notion of putting the camera in SD mode and then slapping the 16x manual on it. Hmmmm...that could be interesting indeed.

-gb-

Jean-Philippe Archibald · September 30th, 2005, 09:54 AM

Yes, the SD res, coupled with the SDi output could be really usefull IMO

Greg Boston · September 30th, 2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Philippe Archibald

Yes, the SD res, coupled with the SDi output could be really usefull IMO

Exactly Jean-Philippe! And it would help the justification for upgrading if my existing lenses could be implemented, even if for SD mode. I was thinking of the SDI option right after you made that post earlier. That was the 'interesting' part of my comment. :-)

-gb-

Barry Goyette · September 30th, 2005, 10:38 AM

I'll add to Greg's suggestion. If possible, put the 16x manual (or 20x auto from the xl2) on and shoot some HD....let's see if there is really an improvement in the new lens...and conversely whether the older lenses will be useful in HD...my guess is they are.

Barry

John Jay · September 30th, 2005, 10:47 AM

Kaku :)

I would like to see some tests for chromatic aberration. If you could print out a checkerboard pattern and shoot it at 4 zoom settings from wide to long and please arrange exposure to be 100% zebra on the white squares - that would be great.

Barry Green · September 30th, 2005, 01:00 PM

Kaku, please verify whether the LCD "flip"/"rotate" feature works with the standard 20x lens attached. I was told yesterday at ResFest that it won't allow flipping unless the standard lens is removed; please verify whether that's true or not.

Dutch Rall · September 30th, 2005, 02:46 PM

Moving, high-contrast diagonal lines in miday sun in 24f mode would allow me to sleep at night. Also, someone dancing or moving in harsh lighting conditions would be helpful.

Thanks in advance for anything.

Robert Niemann · September 30th, 2005, 03:51 PM

What about aberration (compared with the Fujinon lens delivered with the JVC GY-HD100: http://www.icexpo.com/HD100/old_aberration.html)?

September 30th, 2005, 08:35 AM	#1
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	I have the XLH1 for the weekend Is there anything specific you folks want me to try?

September 30th, 2005, 08:38 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hooray for Kaku! Once again you are my hero! Please shoot some HDV in the 24F mode, preferably with some movement within the frame and some moving of the camera. As always I will be happy to host your clips here at DV Info Net. Thanks in advance, Kaku! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 30th, 2005, 09:03 AM	#5
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	A side by side with the Z1 would be great too... If you can do some testing with the SD lenses (16 X manual, 3X) in SD resolution, but also in HD. I know that theses lenses doesn't resolve enough for HD, but indeed, I would like to see some footages taken with these lenses __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

September 30th, 2005, 09:24 AM	#6
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Didn't realize that it is still unavailable... It was deliver to me by the person from Canon lense distributor today. I did not even ask for it. It does say that it is preproduction model, but it seems all concrete looking to me. I only have the HD lense provided. I don't have Z1 but I have FX1 and HC1, I would do my usual comparison test if you know what I did before. I will do my best to cover as much as possible.

September 30th, 2005, 09:26 AM	#7
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Kaku, your celebrity has made its way into Canon's corporate procedures! __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

September 30th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#3
Antoine Fabi Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sherbrooke (Quebec) Canada Posts: 108	Wow ! A working model ! Kaku, If you could shoot some high contrast scenes with different gamma settings (black stretch, knee presets) etc..., it would be very nice. thanks !

September 30th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#4
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	Resolution charts please. Also can you try some real world harsh conditions. For example midday direct sun (weather allowing!!) Please shoot something with people in too. Some carefully lit CUs and MCUs, maybe a little scene to give an idea of skin tone :) If you can do the tests as a side-by-side with another camera, that would be brilliant. Maybe an XL2 or a DVX. Many thanks, sorry to be so demanding!

September 30th, 2005, 09:54 AM	#9
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Yes, the SD res, coupled with the SDi output could be really usefull IMO __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

September 30th, 2005, 10:38 AM	#11
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	I'll add to Greg's suggestion. If possible, put the 16x manual (or 20x auto from the xl2) on and shoot some HD....let's see if there is really an improvement in the new lens...and conversely whether the older lenses will be useful in HD...my guess is they are. Barry

September 30th, 2005, 10:47 AM	#12
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	Kaku :) I would like to see some tests for chromatic aberration. If you could print out a checkerboard pattern and shoot it at 4 zoom settings from wide to long and please arrange exposure to be 100% zebra on the white squares - that would be great. __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

September 30th, 2005, 01:00 PM	#13
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Kaku, please verify whether the LCD "flip"/"rotate" feature works with the standard 20x lens attached. I was told yesterday at ResFest that it won't allow flipping unless the standard lens is removed; please verify whether that's true or not.

September 30th, 2005, 02:46 PM	#14
Dutch Rall Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: LA, CA Posts: 50	Moving, high-contrast diagonal lines in miday sun in 24f mode would allow me to sleep at night. Also, someone dancing or moving in harsh lighting conditions would be helpful. Thanks in advance for anything. __________________ http://www.dutchrall.com

September 30th, 2005, 03:51 PM	#15
Robert Niemann Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Berlin, Federal Republic of Germany Posts: 109	What about aberration (compared with the Fujinon lens delivered with the JVC GY-HD100: http://www.icexpo.com/HD100/old_aberration.html)?