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Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 11:12 AM

Fresh Meat...
 
Alright, I think I've already made a few mistakes with the camera, but here are some shots from last night. These were shot at -3db, mostly wide open.

www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

Joseph H. Moore January 7th, 2006 12:44 PM

Many thanks! Downloading. What frame rate?

Martin Costa January 7th, 2006 12:59 PM

Your a brave man! Could of ended up in a double, camera and daughter soaking. Thanks for the clips.

Joseph H. Moore January 7th, 2006 01:04 PM

One thing's for sure ... the H1 is a real low light performer!

Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph H. Moore
Many thanks! Downloading. What frame rate?

It's all 24F, 1/48th, -3db, normal setting. Aperture was mostly wide open 1.6 to 2.0

Greg Boston January 7th, 2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barlow Elton
It's all 24F, 1/48th, -3db, normal setting. Aperture was mostly wide open 1.6 to 2.0

Wow, -3db. I'm impressed. I'll have to try these settings on the XL2 and see what it yields. Ironically, it was the night footage of Vienna, Austria that I weighed heavily on in deciding to purchase the XL2.

Thanks for sharing Barlow. I only downloaded the one clip to keep your bandwidth usage in check.

-gb-

Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 01:58 PM

Don't worry about it, Greg. Have at it. I mostly use the iDisk to share clips anyway. Apple won't let me go beyond 50GB a month I think, so it's not like I'm gonna get an extra bill once I've reached the limit. They will just freeze the bandwidth until the next month.

Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 02:03 PM

btw, I'm sure many of you have already figured this, but I chose to shoot around the fountain to check for motion artifacts the sudden leaps of water might induce.

Seems like there's very little to complain about in that dept.

Joseph H. Moore January 7th, 2006 02:17 PM

They do look good. And a good indicator of performance for indie filmmaking (my personal interest.)

A better overall "torture test" would be a sporting event. Hockey can be a real killer, but anything that requires camera movement, high shutter speeds, and moving subject matter will quickly reveal deinterlacing issues.

Steven Thomas January 7th, 2006 02:36 PM

Dang Barlow!

Under those conditions, I can't believe how clean the image looks.
It even holds great resolution despite of the light.

I wonder how well it would of held up to 0dB?

Well, I might need to reconsider the H1!

You went out of your way to upload these files, thanks a lot man.

If there's more, please let us know, especially from those on the fence.

The HVX concept is great, but in the end, it's all about picture quality!

thxs, Steve

Joseph H. Moore January 7th, 2006 02:41 PM

Amen. The images from this camera compared to the footage from the HVX is very revealing.

Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 08:48 PM

I took the clips down because I was told that others couldn't access the page. I'm trying to see if I caught Apple's attention with too much bandwidth guzzling.

Barlow Elton January 7th, 2006 11:01 PM

Seems to be ok now. I'll leave them up another day or two.

Barlow Elton January 8th, 2006 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas
Dang Barlow!

Under those conditions, I can't believe how clean the image looks.
It even holds great resolution despite of the light.

I wonder how well it would of held up to 0dB?

It might've looked much better had I more experience with this camera.
Playing with the master pedestal and sharpness levels might've made it silky smooth. Still, I'm very happy with how it performed right out of the box! And this is all crammed down to the absurd compression ratio of HDV.

Shannon Rawls January 8th, 2006 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barlow Elton
this is all crammed down to the absurd compression ratio of HDV.

Well.....

If it looks outstanding.....

Is it really absurd?

Seems to me that it completed it's mission......if you know what I mean?

- ShannonRawls.com


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