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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:03 PM   #1
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Another black and white shot

I'm pretty happy with this new setting (will post later). Here's a shot I took recently:

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/...ow_angle_1.m2t
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Old May 16th, 2006, 11:49 PM   #2
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Steven,

That's a nice setup, especially given that it looks like you shot it at mid-morning or mid-afternoon (I'm guessing mid morning as it looks like the tide is dropping). You managed to bring out the detail in the darks and not blow out the lights. I'd like to know the settings. We've been having some un-typical hot, sunny weather on the west coast. I was going to shoot some footage at a kayak festival the other day, but thought the harsh mid-day lighting would just create crap footage.

I wonder how those (exposure) settings would work in colour?

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Old May 17th, 2006, 12:18 AM   #3
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Ken,

Yes, you were right about it being mid morning and I was very concerned about how I shot this. It was a fine balance between under- and overexposure.

I actually took the same shot with my color settings (documented on this site) The actual exposure is about a 1/2 stop darker using the color. It's the nature of how I have set up the blacks in the bw footage.

Anyway, here's the color version

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/...ow_angle_1.m2t

Here are the black and white settings:
Gamma: Normal
Knee: Low
Black: Press
Master Ped: -5
Setup Level: -1
Sharpness: 2
H Dtl Freq: Middle
DHV: 0
Coring: 3
NR1: Off
NR2: Off
Color Matrix: Normal
Color Gain: -9
Color Phase: 0
RGN: 0
GGN: 0
BGN: 0
RGM: 0
RBM: 0
GRM: 1
BRM: 0
BGM: 0
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Old May 17th, 2006, 01:04 AM   #4
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Steven,

Thanks for the settings. The color comes out real cool looking. Meaning it doesn't look nearly as hot as it has been out here. I'll have to try it. I see what you mean about the 1/2 stop, but I'd take it, considering the time of day it was shot. I tend to shy away from the middle 6 or 8 hours of the day. It sure is nice to see that this camera can handle it if you set it up right.

On the other hand the 'Three Kings' style heat has it's place too, which would be fun to try to recreate.

Keep shooting and posting, as a new H1 owner I sure appreciate it.

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Old May 17th, 2006, 09:08 AM   #5
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Here's another bw shot from the same day demonstrating that, even with the sharpness turned up to 2, there is no stairstepping in thin diagonal lines:

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/...se_lodging.m2t

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Old May 17th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #6
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Steven,

I've tried twice today and can't access the site to download the new clip.

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Old May 17th, 2006, 11:27 PM   #7
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Try it now, I misnamed the file.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 01:06 AM   #8
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Got it.

That's a tough shot, white building in the sun, but it manages it well.

Funny, I thought I saw some kind of artifacting along the ridgeline of the roof, but on closer inspection it looks like a row of spikes to keep the gulls off.

BTW, have you tried a polarizer filter? I picked up the Canon 3 pack (UV, ND8 and Polarizer) and will play around with it while we've got this weather.

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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:09 PM   #9
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Steven's B&W custom preset file is now available for downloading from http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....20&postcount=7
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 09:10 PM   #10
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Steven,

Thanks for all of the clips. By any chance have you shot any indoor stuff that you could post?

Thanks,
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 10:08 PM   #11
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I've got a black and white clip I shot with some lights I slapped together.

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/dolly1.m2t
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