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Doug Bennett September 7th, 2006 03:50 PM

minimum aperture 9.5?
 
according to the canon specs minimum aperture is f16 - but the actual minimum is 9.5

why would canon do this?

anyone tried using shutter speeds higher than 1/60 - with normal action in front of the lens (weddings) how fast a shutter speed can you use before it is noticeable?

A. J. deLange September 8th, 2006 01:17 PM

The sensors on the XL-H1 chip are spaced so close together that the width of the Airy pattern (the spread pattern for a true point source) is comparable to the spacing at apertures in the f/5.6 - f/8 region. Canon thus limits the aperture of the lens on the XL-H1 so that it can't be operated in the "diffraction limited" region. If the lens is fitted to a SD camera with the same size chip the sensors are farther apart and the lens can be stopped down further without the lens's diffraction being the limiting effect (sensor spacing on the chip is the limiting effect in such a case).

Steve Rosen September 9th, 2006 07:32 AM

Also, the lenses available for 1/3" cameras don't do well when stopped down too far.. I use the 20x and the 16x and NEVER shoot closed down more than f4.

I just finished a medium high-end corporate (I don't usually like to do them, but they pay the bills - nearly a years worth in this case) and shot the entire show at 1.6 - 2, even though I had a full crew and HMIs.. I used the 16x lens - because I wanted shallow depth-of-field and needed the follow-focus - and it looks terrific - very happy client.

If you are shooting in bright situations, use NDs or a polarizer. focusing is more critical, but the result is superior...

Roy Beazley December 13th, 2007 02:01 PM

Is there a jpeg of what this looks like?

Peter Jefferson December 14th, 2007 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Rosen (Post 539846)
Also, the lenses available for 1/3" cameras don't do well when stopped down too far.. I use the 20x and the 16x and NEVER shoot closed down more than f4.

Sorry to disappoint you mate, but the DVX/HVX goes down to F16 and is not only crystal clear, but has a wider "sweet spot" between f5 and f13.
As for not doing so well, I would have to disagree with you there.

Roy Beazley December 14th, 2007 06:36 PM

I really thought the sweet spot on all lenses was F8.....including slr's which I shoot the other 50% of my time....

This censor stuff is a trip...kinda above my head....


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