XL1 / XL1S various posts - Page 19 at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog
Can't find it on the XL1 Watchdog site? Discuss it here.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 2nd, 2002, 02:20 PM   #271
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Troy Ny
Posts: 60
wa adapters

Hello all!

I have been kicking around the idea of purchasing a new lens for my xl-1. I like the idea of getting a 3x wide angle lens or an adapter with the manual 16x.

But the idea of not being able to use filters with the 16x/wide angle adapter worries me. Is this true? Is there anyway around this?

I like the idea of the manual 16x with an adapter otherwise. It seems like more for your buck.
Chet Hardin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2002, 02:27 PM   #272
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: San francisco
Posts: 54
thx!

thank you for info, will contact Canon and see what they can do.

Cheers-
Ford Minton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2002, 02:28 PM   #273
Retired DV Info Net Almunus
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,943
The 3x wide angle lens is a very handy tool which CAN accept filters. In fact, it has a 72mm thread which is the same diameter as that of the standard 16x auto lens. So you can interchange filters between the lenses.

All other factors being equal, given the choice between the 3x and the 16x manual lenses (assuming you already have a 16x auto lens) I would definitely choose the 3x lens first.

I can't speak for the wa adapter for the 16x lens. I can say that the Canon wa adapter for the GL1's lens does not accept a filter.

If you can swing it, I would highly recommend getting the 3x lens rather than a wa adapter.
__________________
Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission.

Hey, you don't have enough stuff!
Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really!

See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com
Ken Tanaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2002, 06:13 PM   #274
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Barbados, West Indies.
Posts: 30
noise on XL1s

I`m quite happy with a new XL1s except when I crank up the dbs to 18....there is a lot of noise that looks like a very fine rain shower, making such footage useless for most commercial purposes...has anyone else found the same? No camera presets are being used(sharpness etc). I find that only up to db 6 can I rely one a clean image....so what is the use of the higher dbs feature on this unit versus the original XL1?
Peter Sheppard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2002, 09:47 PM   #275
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Troy Ny
Posts: 60
dark corners on muted shots

has anyone else in here ever experienced this:

(and i guess this might not exactly be an xl-1 issue but since i shoot with the xl-1 with the standard 16x lens)

but when i first got the camera i got a few filters to go with it... uv and warming. while i was playing around with footage i had shot i noticed something dark in the bottom left hand corner of the screen, what i thought looked like a hair. it drove me bonkers for a couple of hours cause as far as i could tell every part of the lens and camera were clean, until i realized i had put the warming filter on top of the uv filter. so i took both off and the dark "hair" was gone. so i was satisfied that i had just extended the rim of the filter into the cameras view...

but now while editing a short i shot with only one filter attached i think i am noticing the same thing. not near as pronounced as before but still on certain shots, ones with light, muted tones filling in the bottom of the screen i seem to be noticing what looks like shadows.

what could be causing this? is something inside my camera causing this or how the lens attaches or, in the lens?
Chet Hardin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2002, 03:07 AM   #276
RED Code Chef
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Holland
Posts: 12,514
Ofcourse this will happen. What you are doing is electronically
enhancing the signal. What you should be doing instead is to
give the chips a signal that does not need enhancing (open up
the lens, remove ND filter, lower the shutter or add more light).
A camera can not "magically" enhance the input it receives
without some down side. I always (at least try) to shoot at
preferably -3db and otherwise 0 db. The option exists for you
to rescue the shot if you truly have no other option. It is possible
to remove some noice in the post-process step but you'll never
get rid of them all without reducing quality.
__________________

Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com
DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef

Join the DV Challenge | Lady X

Search DVinfo.net for quick answers | Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors
Rob Lohman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2002, 09:33 AM   #277
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 26,900
Images: 513
This is quite normal for 18db gain, but what you must understand is that there are times when getting a noisy image is much, much better than getting no image at all. Look at all the reality shows on TV... Cops, etc. where there are grainy shots of the pursuit or whatever. Content is king. Content matters over all. And noisy, grainy content shot at 18db or higher will make money for you where no content at all doesn't mean a thing. Hope this helps,
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | DV Info Net Sponsors | A Decade (+5) of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2002, 04:23 PM   #278
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: San francisco
Posts: 54
Wireless video tap for the XL1?

Looking for a good wireless video tap for use on my XL1. Any suggestions?
BTW- have looked at Super Circuits gear, but most of their units require you to have license to use it (legally that is).
Thx for any replies in advance.

Last edited by Ford Minton; May 3rd, 2002 at 04:36 PM.
Ford Minton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 4th, 2002, 02:38 AM   #279
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 220
DAT vs. Radio Mic

Hi all,

what is more advantageous when recording a soundtrack?

To record on a standalone DAT / other machine (other that is to the primary camcorder).

To use a Radio mic into camcorder and have the audio with the video.


Regards
Andrew
__________________
PAL XL-1, DV Raptor, Premiere

TOTAL AMATEUR - DOING IT FOR THE FUN
Andrew Leigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 4th, 2002, 07:14 AM   #280
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Chigasaki, Japan.
Posts: 1,660
Andrew,

Both methods have pro's and con's. In my opinion it depends entirely on the location/situation you are shooting and also your budget.

A cheap radio mic(VHF) can be affected by interference from lights, etc, but a good one(UHF) can cost $1000's. You can use a cheap recordable MD and get great audio but you've got more work in post syncing. Ideally I'd have both setups available. I've ben looking at DAT's lately. Here in Japan you can get some good Sony ones for <$500.
Adrian Douglas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 6th, 2002, 09:45 AM   #281
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Troy Ny
Posts: 60
filtering Wide angle adapters

the subject says it all...

are there wide angle adapters for the manual 16 that can be filtered? or, if i want to filter wide angle shots, do i have to go with the 3x?

thanks
Chet Hardin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 6th, 2002, 09:52 AM   #282
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 331
Re: filtering Wide angle adapters

Check out: www.centuryoptics.com
__________________
Martin Munthe
VFX Supervisor/DP/Director
Martin Munthe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 6th, 2002, 10:28 AM   #283
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Troy Ny
Posts: 60
cool martin m, thanks!
Chet Hardin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 6th, 2002, 02:36 PM   #284
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 220
EV PL80 Microphone

Hi,

have just been rummaging through my old band gear and discovered my old EV PL80 mic. It is in pristine condition as I only used it for about 6 months. Nice surprise!!!

At the time it was a mid priced mic that was widely used here. Does anyone have experience of this on an XL-1 through the MA-100.

Regards
Andrew
__________________
PAL XL-1, DV Raptor, Premiere

TOTAL AMATEUR - DOING IT FOR THE FUN
Andrew Leigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 7th, 2002, 02:40 PM   #285
Tourist
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 4
How can I get rid of 60 Hz Hum on AC adapter?

I just have a quick question on anyone's experiences on getting rid of hum caused by connecting the XL1s to power through the AC adapter. I'm also tied into the house PA and somewhere in between I'm getting a pretty serious ground loop that gives me a ton of grief and noise!! If I run from batteries all is well but I have a couple of days worth of recording to do and this may pose itself to be a bit unpractical. I'm also using the high impedence input since that may make a difference.

I appreciate any help you all can provide.

Thanks!
Ryan Jilek is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:42 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network