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Dan Uneken October 15th, 2001 05:53 AM

XL1 / XL1S various posts
 
Hi!

I have a question: my XL-1 has just returned from its first yearly maintenance and I now suddenly have some problems with it.
The letters in the viewfinder are now in bright pink or bright red, while the REC / PAUSE letters and the symbol for the tape are black (negative?).
Also, the first tape I shot with it produced no sound and had the left 1/4th of the picture gray, with the rest of the image full of digital artefacts.
I shot two more tapes after that and they are OK.
Before I go back to Canon (it has been serviced in Barcelona, Spain and I don't know if these people had ever seen an XL-1 before in their lives…) I would like to hear if anyone has experienced anything like this…
Thanks..

Dan.

Guest October 19th, 2001 10:23 AM

Starting HDD capture
 
I am using the MGI VideoWave III capture software that came with my Sony VAIO computer. It has a direct firewire input/output support function. I have been starting capture manually using the controls in the software screen. I have been editing the files using Adobe Premier 5.1.

When I play the files back into the XL1s I can see no degradation of image or audio quality. The edited files are indistinguishable from the orig. recording.

nojwod69 October 23rd, 2001 10:06 PM

XL1s focus question
 
G'day from Australia. I've been using an XL1 but to be perfectly honest I wouldn't buy one, because of the lens. Apart from the other problems it is impossible to focus on telephoto, zoom out, start the shot to finish in close, and still retain focus. And as you zoom with a large aperture, you can see the focus hunting around as though the lens isn't a true zoom and they're trying to make up for it with autofocus.

Since I haven't yet read any reports on the focus accuracy of the new lens, and since the Canon site has nothing, I'd just like to ask if anyone has heard anything on whether they've fixed the focus problems with the new lens.

I know there's a manual lens but the attraction of the electronic lens is the steady shot function.

Also when and if I buy it would be with the B&W finder, not the colour one. Does anyone know if Canon intend to offer a pro kit with the B&W finder?

infinity Atlast October 24th, 2001 10:47 PM

How to reduce or minimize aliasing
 
What are good techniques to minimize aliasing? What would be the proper lighting, settings, filters, etc.? Would I have to sacrifice quality resolution?

Are there software programs that help?

Pierre Vetsch October 26th, 2001 07:11 AM

video stabilizer/XL1
 
I'm looking for video stabilizer efficient on rough areas (mainly on volcanoes) for an XL1. Which manufacturers, where to buy it, any ideas about a good price ?

Thank in Advance
Pierre

aonikoyi October 31st, 2001 07:04 PM

Flyingpod V SE vs MarzPak
 
I have been doing a lot of research into some of the more affordable steadicam type rigs and I was wondering if anyone out there has had a chance to use any of them. I am new at this business and I have just purchased an xl1s camera, however even though I may eventually need some type of Pod (tri/mono) I will need something to move about with. I have narrowed down my search to these models however if anyone else out there has a better option, I am open minded.
I am just needing something as versatile enough to be able to be applied to as many applications as possible, meaning no matter what type of shooting I am doing, I would be proud to own so-so and so rig.

Mark Chiocchi November 12th, 2001 10:10 PM

The Pelican Case for the XL1S/GL1 And Them Some
 
Nice Case.
http://www.fast-mhz.com/XL1/pelican.htm

Mark

Sebastian December 6th, 2001 05:46 AM

Cavision WideAngle PWA06X72
 
Hello World!

Is someone out there using the 0.6x fixed focal WideAngle adapter (PWA06X72) from cavision? Is the quality compareable to the optex or century w/a adapters?

Would be great, if you could tell me your experiences.

Many thanks and peaceful x-mas from Hamburg,

Sebastian

Carlos Mario Urrea December 6th, 2001 01:08 PM

XL1 - Dropping In some cassetes- Video Heads?
 
I have my cammera since 1998. And I never have problems till this year. Specially in some tapes the image shows constant little drops in the images. But then I proove whit another tape and the images are perfect. Thats when I say: it is the tape, so I never buy anny one more in the same store. After a few hours of recording the problem appear again, whit a tape bought in a different place. I've try the sony cleaning tape a few times and the problem seams to dessappear. The big problem is that I live in Bogotá, Colombia, and here is no apropiated service for this camcorder. Thats wy I have the fallowing Question:

1. There is some test that I can do to figure out if the problem is about video heads?
2. There is some tip or advice that anybody can give me to solve this problem?
3. How much can cost a Canon Service revision and mantainance in the USA?
4. Could a simple mantainance solve the problems of my camera?
5. It is possible that it implies a change of the video heads?
6. how much it could cost?
7. how long this reapair could take?
8. How I do to e-mail canon Service.

There is no more questions. I hope that somebody could help. Thaks in advance.

From Colombia
Carlos mario Urrea

Drewid20 December 21st, 2001 07:12 PM

Can someone tell me the exact dimensions of the box the XL1 comes in?
 
Exactly what the thread name says... I need to know the dimensions of the box right from the factory. Please let me know ASAP it is very important.

Ed Frazier December 22nd, 2001 12:12 AM

16" X 15.75" X 11.5" for the XL1S NTSC Kit

Ed Frazier

Drewid20 December 22nd, 2001 04:59 PM

Thanks for the info...

allicatwoman December 29th, 2001 10:27 AM

Pal Xl1
 
I am shooting my first feature and am curious if anyone has used both the XL1 and the PAL version of the XL1. Has anyone transfered from the XL1 to film? I am considering trading in my XL1 for the DM-XL1 but am also confused about shooting in frame mode. My output has always been web or cd-rom, so this is completely new to me. I have read the articles by Chris Hauser on DV to 35 mm, but would like to hear from others that have gone through this process and managed to keep a full head of hair.

Dish-cam January 1st, 2002 10:42 AM

Matching xl1s w/ vx2000
 
Anyone have any tips on setting up a Sony vx2000 so it's footage will blend with an xl1s at edit time? Decrease sharpness of Sony, etc.?
Thanks,
Dishcam

Ken Tanaka January 2nd, 2002 06:24 PM

XL1 and a Glidecam
 
I'm thinking about investing in a Glidecam (www.glidecam.com) image stabilizer for use with my XL1 and GL1. I have 3 questions for anyone who has had experience with these devices.

1. Is there a remarkable difference between the V-8 model (the Mercedes model) and the 4000 Pro + Body Pod model? It looks like both would handle the weight ranges of my cams but the V-8 looks like a more "engineered" product.

2. How much practice time would you anticipate I should expect to devote to getting the hang of either? (I'm reasonably coordinated and of medium build. Walking while chewing gum is no problem for me. <g>)

3. How is the quality of Glidecam's products?

Thanks in advance very much for any input you can provide.

Chris Hurd January 2nd, 2002 06:27 PM

Hi Ken,

Please use the search feature and enter "glidecam" -- there are at least three other Glidecam threads with about twenty-odd posts which might help you.

Ken Tanaka January 2nd, 2002 06:29 PM

Thanks very much, Chris. Will do.

John Klein January 4th, 2002 01:45 PM

What I see is that alaising is most evident when the picture is moving.

So a higher quality tripod and fluid head are most important. (+/- $350)

IMO I think that normal sharpness presets on the XL1S is going to be cleaner than with the sharpness dialed up. (Maybe midway is the best compromise?)

I find the times when I zoom to be a bit noisy, so I try to limit the zooms and the zoom speed.

BTW I've been trying the Varizoom RC units and do find that isolating my self physically from the camera (ie I'm not pressing the buttons ON the camera) during zooms to help. I'm not sure yet if I prefer the RCs to be on the tripod handle or in my lap "loose (which is really! off the camera)?"

I also see less of it through the crappier composite signal. I bought a nicer TV and now see more flaws than I did when I had my old TV. The new TV picks up on detail better. Esp. through the s-video.

Ozzie Alfonso January 5th, 2002 01:12 PM

Looking for industrial quality power supply for XL1
 
I recall reading an article, I think in the Watchdog, about adapting the XL1 for heaftier, longer-lasting batteries - I believe the article described Anton Bauer battery packs. I can't find the article but does anyone have any idea what works? I need batteries that last longer than the Canon and can be recharged relatively quickly. I know Anton Bauer has the QR-XL1C Battery Kit especially made for the XL1. Does anyone have any experience with this kit? How does it comapre to Canon's CH910 dual battery adapter?

Thank you in advance for any tips and sugestions.

TruProductions January 7th, 2002 01:24 AM

Battery life questions about XL1s
 
Hi All,

Im about to make a switch to a XL1s as my main camera to shoot wedding videos.

My main concern is the lack of extended battery life that I have enjoyed with my VX2000e at present.

With the standard BP930 battery, how long does it last continuously in the field? Canon claims 90mins.. is this continuos shooting time or standby time?

How long will the BP945 last?

Are there any alternatives to using the Canon batteries? ie, 3rd party manufacturers?

How do you feel about the XL1s's low light performance on the dance floor, is it anywhere near as good as the Sony's or noisier?

Any comments are welcome :)

Regards,

infinity Atlast January 7th, 2002 02:39 AM

Yeah, I've been doing a little reading on the net. The general advice seems to be keep the contrast within the 7.5 to 100 IRE range, adjusting when necessary, and and play with the depth of field, focusing on the foreground, blurring the background just a little. Does everybody agree with that?

Paul Robinson January 7th, 2002 05:02 AM

Composite Out
 
I've been noticing that the picture out of the XL1s using the composite port has quite a significant amount of noise on it, regardless of the cable's quality or length.

The noise is stationary, like a transparently superimposed image of verticle banding.

Has anyone else noticed this? To get around this problem when copying to VHS tapes, I've been using my little Panasonic DS11 which outputs crystal clear.

Because of the nature of the noise I think it's more likely to be low quality output componants rather than noise induced into the cables... It's not REALLY bad, it's just annoying.

So far I havn't tested the SVHS connector as I don't have anything capable of taking it.

Paul

Steve Kim January 7th, 2002 02:34 PM

battery life and low light performance
 
In my experience,
930 lasted an hour and 945 lasted an hour and half.

VX2000/PD-150's low light performance is better than XL1S'.

How much? I can't say exactly, but I think it is noticeable.
These two areas are the weak points of XL1S comparing to
VX2000/PD150.

Auto focus is not as quick and stable as VX200/PD150 either.

I still prefer the more natural color tone and manual control of XL1S.

vuduproman January 7th, 2002 05:51 PM

Under General
 
Please look under the General Discussion section and look for the heading "Lenmar 6 hour batteries for XL1s for $100 - Any good? "

I received good advice from the people there.

John Klein January 8th, 2002 02:52 AM

Just curious,

What kind of TV are you using? My new TV looks very different than my old one. I think there are also certain settings built in to TVs that artificially add to the pic. Usually they work great with helping to view local TV but don't always help watching native sources like our nice cams.

Also, what are your sharpness and other presets at? Over +4 is shows a kind of static IMO. Gain too after +12.

good luck and keep us posted.

Paul Robinson January 8th, 2002 04:46 AM

Well I'm using the AV input on the TV which should bypass all the RF stages in the TV an not taint the picture too much, but that aside, the Panasonic doesn't display the same artifacts.
It's quite bizzare.

I usually just have the sharpness on the factory default setting, and the gain set at -3dB (Gives the least noise).

The noise doesn't show up on the computer screen when I've firewired the video across.

I'm just glad the rest of the camera seems to work okay :)

macefleeger January 8th, 2002 04:14 PM

bad audio-not the motor.
 
my XL1s sounds terrible-

I'm using the MA-100 with two Shure 57's to record audio (these mics sound great with other gear). The mics are on stands several feet away, so I'm certain this is not the well documented motor noise issue.

The audio I'm getting has an unacceptable signal to noise ratio (a rather strong hiss). Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to play with another XL1s for comparison purposes. I have sent the camera back to Canon for an unrelated repair and asked them to look into the audio. They said nothing was wrong with it. I'm curious to know if any of you are in love with the audio you're getting. Or are the Shure 57's innapropriate for the XL1s?

Don Palomaki January 8th, 2002 04:53 PM

How is the noise floor with no mic connected?
Try record some footage with no mic connected, capture it and check the noise floor levels. At the MIC asetting it should be on the order of 55-60 dB below max record level.

If the noise is OK with no mic connected, the noise is coming from the mic and/or leads.

Steve Kim January 9th, 2002 07:54 AM

PAL or NTSC version of XL1S?
 
I am considering buying a PAL version of XL1S.

I prefer PAL because it has more lines (625) than NTSC (525 lines), better color, better contrast and 25 fps vs. 30 fps.

My problem is I live in USA where NTSC is standard.

Where can I buy it? How does the warrenty work?

Do you think using PAL version in US is too much trouble and is not much noticeable gain in the picture quality?

Or is it worth to have PAL version?

Do I lose a lot in terms of picture quality on the conversion to
NTSC in case I need to convert?

Video is my hobby and I think I mostly view the images at
my PC monitor using Premire6.0, or at PAL monitor.

Steve Nunez January 11th, 2002 02:21 PM

XL1S Questions
 
Hello everyone,

I've been following just about every thread and website that has current information on the XL1S....I don't own any DV cam at the moment but will likely buy the XL1S in a few days...I'm setup with a Macintosh G4 using Final Cut Pro as well as After Effects 5.0 etc....I've made a few small videos for web use in the past using a Sony Digital 8 and that's been my exposure into the realm of DV editing....i've got to say it's exciting and i'm hooked!

..needless to say i have a few questions i'm hoping someone here with the "S" model can elaborate on...here goes;

1.- I've read that the manual focus is not truly manual in that it's electronically controlled via servo- I've also read that it's inconsistent in speed and focus when using the manual setting- if I use the "auto" mode- how likely would the focusing system be in locking on a moving object assuming you pan along with that moving object- such as a hawk in flight- would the S be able to maintain focus lock on a moving subject of that kind? Will it follow the hawk if it flys away or towards the camera? This is very important to me as I was chosen by the NYC park Dept. to put together a photography show using my still images i've taken with a digital Nikon F5- i want to suppliment the presentation with video footage and am wondering if the S can maintain focus lock on a moving hawk.

2.- If I purchase the EF adapter and purchase an EOS lens will it focus automatically or strictly manually? I'm looking to do some long range videography with a 300 or 400mm lens due to it's 7.1 multiplier and just want to know if all focusing has to be done manually.

3.- Does video quality degrade when reusing the same DV tape- I plan on making a bulk purchase of DV tapes (eBay) but wonder about image degradation when re-using the DV tape- any info?

4. Panasonic DV tapes seem to be much less expensive than Sony or other makers- any reason for this- are the Panasonic's reputed to be inferior?

5. If i record using 4 channels on the audio- will the captured DV footage be larger in file size than that of 2 channel dv footage?

Thanks to the Watchdog and all of you who have submitted content- it's a great thing this "internet age"..

Have fun.

Steve Kim January 11th, 2002 03:34 PM

XL1S
 
If you can afford, buy XL1S with manual lens at zgc.com.

I don't have any experience of shooting a moving object with the AF lens with XL1S. I am not qualified to answer your specific question. But, I still think XL1S' AF is not quite great comparing to SONY's. You need a good amount of light to prevent AF haunting (focus in and out in low light condition).
I do the following to avoid the AF haunting in low light:
Zoom in all the way and focus. Then turn off AF and zoom out.
In this way, the focus stays when I zoom out and in.

I don't see many reasons to zoom in/out frequently in my work.
But, you may need to focus fast and zoom in/out more often.
You really need to try XL1S yourself to find out.

Read the review on JVC AG-DVC200 and XL1 at www.zenera.com.
The reviewer talked about the focusing on a fast moving skater
with XL1 and JVC.

Panasonic MQ 60 $7-8 is good and is a dry lubricant DV tape vs. Sony's wet lub. B&H charges $7.99

You may consider getting PAL version.
It has a better vertical resolution(625 vs. NTSC 525 lines) and more color space( 4:2:0 vs. NTSC's 4:1:1)

The low-budget film makers in US use PAL version and copy their works to 35 mm film.

I live in US, NTSC country, but still want to buy PAL one.

You can order one at zgc.
You can not view PAL images on a NTSC TV set. But there are many pro quality monitors display either PAL or NTSC. Visit B&H.

Before you make a final decision, read Billup/s Digital Moviemaking.
You are going to learn a lot about DV and movie making.

Vic Owen January 11th, 2002 06:10 PM

Another vote for the Panasonic tapes. I've used both grades and typically use the MQ Master 63 min. series. I also use the full size Panasonic DV cassettes. They are excellent.

On two occasions, I've had an older archived Sony DVCAM full size cassette jam the DV2000 after sitting on the shelf for a year. That's never happened with the Panasonic. Might be just luck, or maybe the different lube is a factor.

Vic

TruProductions January 12th, 2002 04:42 PM

Need info on XLR microphones
 
Hi all,

After reading more and more about professional productions, XLR inputs are the way to go for professionl audio.

What is phantom power? Do microphones need additional power? Does the MA-200 give any power to the microphones? I would like to read some more info on professional audio, any sites that may help?

Regards,

Ed Frazier January 12th, 2002 08:41 PM

The MA-200 does not supply phantom power to microphones but does use DC from the camera for internal circuits.

Ed Frazier

Vic Owen January 13th, 2002 12:14 AM

Some mics need additional power to operate their internal electronics-- it can be supplied by an audio mixer, or an in-line phantom power box. Some cameras will also supply this power-- the XL-1 will not, nor will the MA-200 as Ed mentioned. Same is true for the MA-100.

XLR cabling does not necessarily mean the need for phantom power -- it's determined by the requirements of the mic.

Vic

Steve Kim January 14th, 2002 11:06 AM

Viewing 16:9 image
 
I took 16:9 format video and edited them in Adobe in which I can
view them in 16:9.

But, I can not view them in 16:9 mode in MS Media Player, or Quick Time player.

Do you know any video viewer that I can view 16:9 images?

MusarInteractive January 14th, 2002 04:14 PM

Chris, Is the XL1S being featured at NY DV Expo?
 
Hi,

On another forum I found a pointer to a DV show in New York this February and I was debating whether to make the trip. Will the XL1S be shown off at this event?

http://www.dvnyc.com/

And, does Canon ever show both NTSC and PAL versions side by side at any of these expos?

Thank you.

Tim

Chris Hurd January 14th, 2002 07:33 PM

Tim,

Canon USA is not exhibiting at this show. However some of their authorized dealers should be there. Locate me at the Canopus booth and we'll find an XL1S for you to get your hands on.

Canon does not show the PAL version at shows due to the hassles of transporting a PAL monitor (most often they don't even have NTSC monitors either). Besides, the majority of the public at large at these tradeshows are new to DV and new to the XL1, and they just wouldn't "get" what the PAL camera is for. It takes a trained eye to see any real difference in the image. Most folks would just notice the flicker of PAL and that's about it.

See you there,

rbuckeye January 14th, 2002 07:47 PM

XL-1 connection to a computer
 
I have an XL-1 for the past year and would like to do some editing on our computer with some software we bought. I can't seem to find...or don't understand...how to get connected and what I need in cables or adapters to get hooked up? Any help to push me in the right direction would be appreciated.

Chris Hurd January 14th, 2002 07:59 PM

Without knowing what kind of computer you have and what operating system you're running, it's a little hard to give good advice.

Basically you need a FireWire card for your computer, and a FireWire cable that has a 6-pin connector at one end for this card and a 4-pin connector at the other end for the XL1.

You say you already have software, but you might want to consider the Canopus EZDV or Canopus Raptor at www.justedit.com -- these products include the hardware (capture cards), software and cables and are ready to install if you have the right motherboard and video card. Plus you'll need a hard drive of about 30 gigabytes or so, dedicated to video and audio storage.

It's a big topic. Try this link for some beginning advice:
http://www.videoguys.com/started.html -- hope this helps,


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