XL1 vs. XL1s quality at DVinfo.net

Kai Leibrandt · May 9th, 2002, 07:36 PM

Hi all,

I have just completed a couple of test shoots regarding 16:9 vs. 4:3 and Field vs. Frame mode, using the EIA Resolution Chart (is that thing really from the 50's?), with my XL1 (not s).

I will also have some more pictures tomorrow, using the above as a base, and getting to 16:9 frame mode through software (i.e. compare Premiere/FilmFX/VirtualDub/DV Film). I think this should make an interesting set of pictures. I do predict however very little difference there as there's no movement in the images. I intend to _not_ do a colour or grain adjust in any of these as I'm interested in resolution only.

Unfortunately, I have no website to post it to, so Chris, could I send you the grabs for you to put a simple article up? I was thinking just a few lines outlining how I did the shoot etc., then the pictures as thumbnails links to full-res TIFFs.
This is of course, only if there isn't already such a comparison up somewhere else, but I found none...

Also, if anyone could repeat these steps (only the in-camera effects) with an XL1s, this would be really great because I heard so many times that it's lens and CCD's are better than the XL1 that I just want to see how much better. It only takes a few minutes and would probably be appreciated by others too.

PDF of the above chart is available for emailing.

Thanks v much

Kai.

Chris Hurd · May 9th, 2002, 07:38 PM

Yes Kai, I would be more than happy to put this on the Watchdog. Just e-mail your text and images to chris@dvinfo.net. I'm on a PC, so if you have a Mac, that might complicate things. Please send the PDF also... thanks in advance,

John Klein · May 14th, 2002, 10:40 PM

Check and see if john beale might host along with some of his stuff. I've been a fan of his res charts for some time.

bealecorner dot com

wanna loan me the chart? I've got the S model and have wanted to do a test, too. Especially after dv mag showed the little charts but made no mention whatsoever as to actual numbers. I'm suspecting a very marginal actual improvement over your cam, but perhaps a subjective difference due to sharpening.

Kai Leibrandt · May 15th, 2002, 01:42 AM

Hi JoPhoto,

the chart will be included in the article as a PDF.

Kai.

Chris Hurd · May 16th, 2002, 10:16 AM

I'll have it up on the Watchdog pretty quick. I was out of town until today, trying to get caught up with stuff and getting a Watchdog update put together. Stay tuned.

May 9th, 2002, 07:36 PM	#1
Kai Leibrandt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 70	XL1 vs. XL1s quality Hi all, I have just completed a couple of test shoots regarding 16:9 vs. 4:3 and Field vs. Frame mode, using the EIA Resolution Chart (is that thing really from the 50's?), with my XL1 (not s). I will also have some more pictures tomorrow, using the above as a base, and getting to 16:9 frame mode through software (i.e. compare Premiere/FilmFX/VirtualDub/DV Film). I think this should make an interesting set of pictures. I do predict however very little difference there as there's no movement in the images. I intend to _not_ do a colour or grain adjust in any of these as I'm interested in resolution only. Unfortunately, I have no website to post it to, so Chris, could I send you the grabs for you to put a simple article up? I was thinking just a few lines outlining how I did the shoot etc., then the pictures as thumbnails links to full-res TIFFs. This is of course, only if there isn't already such a comparison up somewhere else, but I found none... Also, if anyone could repeat these steps (only the in-camera effects) with an XL1s, this would be really great because I heard so many times that it's lens and CCD's are better than the XL1 that I just want to see how much better. It only takes a few minutes and would probably be appreciated by others too. PDF of the above chart is available for emailing. Thanks v much Kai.

May 9th, 2002, 07:38 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Yes Kai, I would be more than happy to put this on the Watchdog. Just e-mail your text and images to chris@dvinfo.net. I'm on a PC, so if you have a Mac, that might complicate things. Please send the PDF also... thanks in advance, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 14th, 2002, 10:40 PM	#3
John Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 182	Check and see if john beale might host along with some of his stuff. I've been a fan of his res charts for some time. bealecorner dot com wanna loan me the chart? I've got the S model and have wanted to do a test, too. Especially after dv mag showed the little charts but made no mention whatsoever as to actual numbers. I'm suspecting a very marginal actual improvement over your cam, but perhaps a subjective difference due to sharpening. __________________ < >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><

May 16th, 2002, 10:16 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I'll have it up on the Watchdog pretty quick. I was out of town until today, trying to get caught up with stuff and getting a Watchdog update put together. Stay tuned. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 15th, 2002, 01:42 AM	#4
Kai Leibrandt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 70	Hi JoPhoto, the chart will be included in the article as a PDF. Kai.