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Old May 10th, 2002, 12:53 PM   #1
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sound on mini-disc

Hey there people!
I am getting ready to film my first piece and I have to find an inexpensive way to do sound. Has anyone ever tried a mini disc recorder with a boom mike?
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Old May 10th, 2002, 04:46 PM   #2
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Should work. I've used them with stand mounted mics. Will fit in the sound person's shirt pocket - no need for a large fanny pack recorder.
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Old May 10th, 2002, 05:09 PM   #3
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thanks a lot Don. will let u know how it works out.
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Old May 11th, 2002, 06:22 AM   #4
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If buying a minidisc recorder, check to see whether or not it gives the recording controls; e.g., level adjustment while recording and a VU meter of sorts, that you need. Check www.minidisc.org for more than you ever wanted to know about MiniDiscs.
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Old May 14th, 2002, 03:29 PM   #5
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Doesn't Mini Disc employ pretty serious compression as compared to DAT or using the XL1 onboard. I wonder if that compression would pose a concern as far as quality at some point during post?
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Old May 14th, 2002, 05:37 PM   #6
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I don't know, I will have to check it out. I think I might just do both- thru the xl1s and mini disc, just in case.
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Old May 14th, 2002, 08:42 PM   #7
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Very few people can hear the differnce between a MiniDISC copy (at 5:1 compression) and a CD original - it takes a very golden ear. MiniDISC is based of 44.1 k sample rate (vise 48 kHz for DAT) and 16-bit sampling followed by the 5:1 compresion.

It MiniDisc not as good as DAT, but it is more than adequate for most video purposes, short of very serious, professional music recording in a studio environment. And it costs a lot less!

There are professional MiniDISC recorders available as well, at corresponding price points.
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Old May 14th, 2002, 09:16 PM   #8
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Do you know of a mike that works good with a mini disc recorder? this is for dialogue.
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Old May 15th, 2002, 08:52 AM   #9
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Audio Technica has a model AT822 Stereo (One-point) mic that is terminated with an 1/8" mini plug. The mic is powered by a AA battery. I have used this mic with a small Sony minidisc recorder for capturing voice overs and other sound in the field. Note, that if you decide to extend the cable that comes with the mic by using a standard XLRM-XLRF mic cord, don't go beyond 20' as the output of the AT 822 is not balanced.

For my Marantz PD650 Professional Minidisc recorder (It has XLR mic inputs), I use an AT825 stereo mic. This one has a five pin XLR connector that fans out to 2 regular 3 pin XLR's. This mic can operate on phantom power or an internal AA battery.

Hope this helps.
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Old May 15th, 2002, 06:28 PM   #10
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In addition to the AT-822, check the Sony ECM-MS957 single point stereo for around $200 or the 907 for a lot less (and not as good a mic). The AT may be the better mic overall.
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Old May 16th, 2002, 11:10 PM   #11
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So, I am using a Sony MZ-G750 mini disc recorder is that the best mike (the AT-822 )and is that recorder good enough or do I need to upgrade?
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Old May 17th, 2002, 07:56 AM   #12
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I don't know which Sony model that is. The AT-822 will work with most any device that uses an 1/8" stereo mic input jack. (Including the XL1s)

A good mic will always improve audio quality.

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Old June 6th, 2002, 11:10 PM   #13
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sort of a related question.
When using a DAT or a Minidisc, would one use a field mixer like a Wendt X2?

see:
http://www.wendtinc.net/x2specs.htm
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Old June 7th, 2002, 07:44 AM   #14
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Many of you have already heard about my Korg. It is a 12 track hard disk recorder, with a built in mixer, and accepts 1/4" or xlr mics. It has a 4 gig hd, which will hold like 18 hrs on one track at 44khz quality. I feed all of my audio into it, and use it in most situations. It does require power, so have some cords ready.

However, it will NOT fit in a pocket.
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Old June 7th, 2002, 03:27 PM   #15
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how big is the korg?
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