Xl1S- looks like a kids toy?

Sunny Dhinsey · March 23rd, 2004, 11:24 AM

It's true, people do think you must be filming something important if they see the Canon XL1(S). I often get asked what TV Channel I'm working for. I've even managed to convince people that it's a Live broadcast!

Mike Doyle · March 23rd, 2004, 11:46 AM

Test results!
Three of us converged on the Hollywood-Highland complex carrying video cameras. One had a Sony Beta SP rig, another had a PD150 and the third had an XL1s. The Beta SP operator and the XL1s operator were quickly asked to leave since we didn't have prior authorization. Nobody even approached the PD150 operator.
Very Unscientific Conclusions
If you want to blend with the crowd and be less obvious, use the PD150 (which I do on occasion).
The XL1s is perceived as a professional camera.

Be proud of that strangely shaped camera with the red body parts.

James Emory · March 24th, 2004, 02:15 AM

Same here. I use the XL with all pro accessories and it never fails wherever I'm shooting. IF someone does ask, it's who are you with? I've also gotten the eye from other shooters, especially news shooters with Beta or DVC Pro rigs, you know that bless your heart, your trying to be like us aren't you look. Then there are those same industry people that like and compliment the camera. I think the original thread poster's friend is just technically ignorant, just doesn't get out enough or both.

Don Berube · March 24th, 2004, 02:24 AM

Well, for what it is worth,,,

I'll take my XL1S rig
http://noisybrain.com/firestore/donberube_concept2
over a PD-150 anyday.

Unless, of course, I needed to be super low-profile, then I would probably use a handycam such as the GL2. That PD-150 will only give you a stuttery 15fps Progressive Scan. Canon's Frame Mode is a full 30fps and much smoother.

Best regards,

- don

James Emory · March 24th, 2004, 02:33 AM

I've never really shot much with a palm sized camera. I know that it has it's advantages such as the flip out screen and its smaller size. It just seems that there is more stability with a shoulderable camera as uncomfortable as that XL can be for extended shots. Also, on a smaller camera the buttons are usually in clusters and some have multi-functions to save space on the body. Not fun when you're in a hurry and having to fumble through a menu for what should be a simple adjustment with a dedicated button. I'm with the Donald. I just don't like those little bitty cameras.

March 23rd, 2004, 11:24 AM	#31
Sunny Dhinsey Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 127	Which TV Channel? It's true, people do think you must be filming something important if they see the Canon XL1(S). I often get asked what TV Channel I'm working for. I've even managed to convince people that it's a Live broadcast! __________________ Sunny Dhinsey Director - www.filmlore.tv

March 23rd, 2004, 11:46 AM	#32
Mike Doyle Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 32	This just in... Test results! Three of us converged on the Hollywood-Highland complex carrying video cameras. One had a Sony Beta SP rig, another had a PD150 and the third had an XL1s. The Beta SP operator and the XL1s operator were quickly asked to leave since we didn't have prior authorization. Nobody even approached the PD150 operator. Very Unscientific Conclusions If you want to blend with the crowd and be less obvious, use the PD150 (which I do on occasion). The XL1s is perceived as a professional camera. Be proud of that strangely shaped camera with the red body parts.

March 24th, 2004, 02:15 AM	#33
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	XL reputation Same here. I use the XL with all pro accessories and it never fails wherever I'm shooting. IF someone does ask, it's who are you with? I've also gotten the eye from other shooters, especially news shooters with Beta or DVC Pro rigs, you know that bless your heart, your trying to be like us aren't you look. Then there are those same industry people that like and compliment the camera. I think the original thread poster's friend is just technically ignorant, just doesn't get out enough or both.

March 24th, 2004, 02:24 AM	#34
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Well, for what it is worth,,, I'll take my XL1S rig http://noisybrain.com/firestore/donberube_concept2 over a PD-150 anyday. Unless, of course, I needed to be super low-profile, then I would probably use a handycam such as the GL2. That PD-150 will only give you a stuttery 15fps Progressive Scan. Canon's Frame Mode is a full 30fps and much smoother. Best regards, - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

March 24th, 2004, 02:33 AM	#35
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	I heard that I've never really shot much with a palm sized camera. I know that it has it's advantages such as the flip out screen and its smaller size. It just seems that there is more stability with a shoulderable camera as uncomfortable as that XL can be for extended shots. Also, on a smaller camera the buttons are usually in clusters and some have multi-functions to save space on the body. Not fun when you're in a hurry and having to fumble through a menu for what should be a simple adjustment with a dedicated button. I'm with the Donald. I just don't like those little bitty cameras.