cheap directional mic at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog
Can't find it on the XL1 Watchdog site? Discuss it here.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old June 1st, 2002, 04:58 PM   #1
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 8,308
cheap directional mic

Could someone reccomend a modestly priced (read: cheap) directional microphone that will can be used on a boom as well as mounted on the camera? I don't have an XLR adapter yet, and probably won't for a few months.
I know you get what you pay for, and I intend to upgrade in the future, but in the meantime, what would fill my need?

Also, by comparison, how good/bad is the stock mic?

Thanks!
Dylan Couper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2002, 10:06 AM   #2
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 4,298
The XL1 stocl mic is a good mic, as stock single point stereo mics go. But you really need to get the mic near the talent, not the camcorder. Check the Sennheriser MKE300. Well under 200 for a short shotgun. Unbalanced, mono, powered by a watch battery. Roll off below 200 Hz. (Mainly a higher end consumer/prosumer market product.)

For real cheap (ynder $100) yocan find some Azden and AT products ar you neighborhood consumer electronics super store. ALso, check the uued market on the web.
Don Palomaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2002, 12:28 PM   #3
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 8,308
I plan on having a mic on a boom whenever I can sucker someone into volunteering. :)
However, I know a lot of the time I will have to use it mounted on the camera. I do have a wireless lavalier mic for dialogue and such.

I was thinking about an Azden ECZ-990, which is $80 or so, but I will definitely consider the MKE300 since it's also within my budget.

How does it compare to the Azden SGM-1X for about the same price? (which I would need an XLR adapter for).
Dylan Couper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2002, 04:09 PM   #4
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 4,298
The SGM-1X is probably a bit better than the MKE300. The MKE300 is mono with a 3.5mm mini-phone, unbalanced connector on it.

If your budget will support mics in the $150 to $200 range, I would say to skip the under $100 stuff.
Don Palomaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2002, 04:35 PM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 182
Are these mics with miniplugs set to go into the mic jack?

Are all mics w/ miniplugs "matched" for use with a cam like the xl1? What kind of spec should we look for to make sure it's ok for use with either the mic jack or xlr?

Is a mic that uses a little battery akin to being phantom powered? I assume the xl1 doesn't have phantom power so I'd need one with a battery?
__________________
< >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><
John Klein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 6th, 2002, 04:47 PM   #6
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 4,298
Look for a mic that is rated for 600 ohms or lower. You probably can get buy if it is rated up to about 1000 ohms.

The mics with mini plugs should work, subject to the above note about impedance. They shoudl also say they are for camcordes. But do not expect a $50 mic to sound as good as the GL1 internal mic if both mics are at the same location relative to the sound source.

The battery for the mic takes the place of phantom power, but it is not the same. The better battery powered mics usually use a AA battery and alternatively can use phantom power.

(Standard phantom power is 48 volts DC, and is current limited to a few ma or so.)
Don Palomaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 8th, 2002, 11:14 AM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 182
Thanks Don

It never occurred to me that another mic could jack in to the xl1. I assumed that the specialized plug meant that only the stock mic would make it in.
__________________
< >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><
John Klein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2002, 03:14 PM   #8
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 8,308
I ended up buying the MKE 300.
Just waiting for it to arrive in the mail now.

Thanks for the info!

Dylan
Dylan Couper is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:45 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network