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Richard Lubash October 30th, 2001 10:43 AM

16X Manual Lens Questions
 
I have been waiting for word on a ship date for the new 16X manual lens and as of today in a conversation with the warehouse at Cannon parts was told it could be 6 to 8 months. So… my question is, has anyone heard information that would negate the 6-8 months as a confused warehouse manager or, if this is true. Is the 14X (older) manual lens significantly enough different from the new 16X lens to wait out the time till the new lens is available?

Thanks,

Richard Lubash
2K-Plus

Alexander Ibrahim October 31st, 2001 02:03 AM

I thought November was the ship date ?
 
I thought November was the ship date, and I have been assured by people at Canon I would be able to see a sample of the final retail version of the 16x lens this November at GV Expo.

Of course, just because I can see it at an expo doesn't mean they'll be shipping it in quantity. Could be that it will be 6-8 months before there is a significant number of lenses available for sale.

gratedcheese November 29th, 2001 10:59 PM

Canon 16x manual lens
 
Has anyone heard the latest on the availability of the manual 16x lens?

Also, for those of you who might have heard about the specs on the new lens, how do you think it will compare to the Fujinon 14x manual lens made for the XL1?

I'm about to purchase the XL1S, but am waiting for information on the 16x manual and how it compares to the Fujinon model.

One other question: do the converters that are made for the XL1 detract optically from the image that is recorded?

Thanks!

Chris Hurd November 30th, 2001 09:53 PM

Howdy from Texas,

<< Has anyone heard the latest on the availability of the manual 16x lens? >>

Canon USA tells me it's available now.

<< how do you think it will compare to the Fujinon 14x manual lens made for the XL1? >>

No real way to know for sure without a hands-on side by side comparison.

Numbers, specs etc. available in the PDF brochure which you can download from Canon -- link on my site, under "XL1S Skinny."

<< do the converters that are made for the XL1 detract optically from the image that is recorded? >>

Converters? You mean wide-angle adapters, etc.? Shouldn't hurt it too much, as long as the glass is good (i.e., Canon glass or similar). Stay away from the cheap stuff. Hope this helps,

Richard Lubash December 3rd, 2001 08:21 AM

I just received the 16X manual lens form B&H on Thursday. I haven't had much time to play with it but so far it seems quite nice. It uses the iris control on the camera instead of a ring which I would have liked better but considering that you can use it manual or servo zoom that seems like an ok trade off from the old 14x manual.

Richard Lubash

Mike Avery December 4th, 2001 09:54 AM

no iris ring on lens?
 
I had been looking forward to getting a 16X manual lens, but now learn there is no iris ring on the lens...we still have to use the camera iris control.

Is this true? If so that's a big disappointment.

Mike Avery

Guest December 4th, 2001 06:53 PM

Yes, that is true, no manual adjustment of the iris on the lens itself, only with the dial. That is what is holding me back from buying it as well.

gratedcheese December 5th, 2001 02:13 PM

16x Manual lens: RRKPLRRKPL ?
 
RRKPLRRKPL:

What is your impression of the 16x Canon manual lens that you purchased recently?

Can anyone compare it to the Optex/Fujinon 14x manual lens that has been discussed on this site?

Thanks!

Mike Avery December 5th, 2001 02:46 PM

14x iris control
 
Well, what about the 14x...does it have the iris ring on the lens, or does it also use the camera iris control?

Thanks,

Mike Avery

Rob Lohman December 6th, 2001 02:51 AM

I'd like to here some opinions too... Some ppl claim
to have it, but are not saying anything about it! Please
guys.. let us know how it is! You don't have to write
a complete review (although that would be nice as well)..
just tell us how it is! :)

Thanks!

Justin Walter December 7th, 2001 02:24 AM

16X verses 14X for 16:9 use
 
I too was considering getting the 14x, since it is so much cheaper and really how much difference could there be in image quality... However, I am also interested in getting the new anamorphic lense attachment for 16:9 photography.

This is where the problem came up: The OpTex DV Anamorphic Attachment for 16:9 on a 4:3 chip was originally made for 52mm threaded lenses.
*The lense that comes with the XL1 is 72mm
*The manual 14x is 62mm thread.
*The manual 16x is 72mm thread.

Obviously this is a problem, luckily for us who are intrested in getting a good widescreen image
an adaptor ring that will change the thread from 52 to 72mm was made this adaptor costs an extra $70. There is not an adaptor to change it from 52mm to 62mm as far as I know. So it should work with the 16x manual lense but not with the 14x manual, if I'm am reading this stuff right.

These are just my impressions from looking at this cool stuff on the ZCG site, let me know if I'm missing something or if I've got it all wrong:

http://www.zgc.com/html/anamorphic_attachment.html#xl1
http://www.zgc.com/html/__stru_1.html
http://www.zgc.com/html/canon_16x_manual_servo_zoom_le.html

Guest December 7th, 2001 03:22 AM

The optex 14x manual lens is 62mm, the Canon 14x manual lens is 72mm just like the 16x manual lens and all the other Canon XL-1 lenses.

Justin Walter December 7th, 2001 09:21 PM

okay... I wasn't aware that there was more than one 14x lense available for the XL1... Probably because I was only looking at the ZCG site, but looking on the watchdog I've confirmed that you are right:

http://www.dvinfo.net/xl1.htm

Thanks if it works with the Anamorphic Attachment you will have saved me hundreds of dollars. The OpTex DV Anamorphic Attachment should work with the Canon 14x manual lense right? Are there any other issues that would prevent it from working...anyone know?

joe stonestreet December 24th, 2001 01:26 PM

16X manual lens zoom speed
 
I just got my new lens and was disappointed to find that the slowest possible zoom speed is much faster than the nice slow creep available with the standard 16 XL II lens. Is this within specs for this lens or do I have a problem. I like unobtrusive camera moves for some of my work and really liked that capability. I use the Varizoom Pro controller so I can dial in the desired speed and have if be consistent through out my work...but this lens has moch faster zoom speed on the slow end. Anybody else noticed this with their lens?

Chris Hurd December 24th, 2001 01:54 PM

Please check the other threads before posting -- this topic is currently being discussed in Mike Avery's post, "First Impressions of the 16x Manual Lens" -- let's pick up the conversation there. Thanks,


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