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Old September 9th, 2002, 11:09 AM   #16
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XLR attenuator adapters

While XLR (f) to XLR (m) attenuator adapters are avail, most are on the bulky side, being 1.5 to 2x the size of an XLR and stick out, putting strain on the connector its plugged into; adapaters like the Sure, are best used "in-line" in the middle of a mic cable run (between a mic's 6-ft cord and the "long cord run to the mixer/camera, if under 25-ft, ohterwise swap out long cord with the short cord to the mixer end.
Another solution, is to use an attenuated cord, that has the connectors you want at each end, with the 10-db to 30-db attenuation added inside the cable; (most use resistor pads connected at one end of the cable). The adavantage is no bulky connector hanging out the side of your rig, and less strain on the connectors. The disadvantage is you have to have a different cord for different amounts of attenuation. Cables are available for most field mixers i.e. Sound Device has several. Check with your local pro-adudio suppler or one of the on-line sponsors of this board. Al.
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Old September 12th, 2002, 09:46 PM   #17
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found one

I found the perfect thing. An XLR volume control made by Rapco International. A barrel about 4 inches long - XLRM on one end, XLRF on the other. It has a knob in the middle to adjust the level.
$20. :)
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Old September 14th, 2002, 02:25 PM   #18
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Great!

Glad you found sosmething that works for you. Just becareful about stressing connectors with the unit. It's best to use it "inline" between two cable connectors. Good luck Al.
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Old January 29th, 2003, 02:43 PM   #19
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XLR -> stereo miniplug vs Beachtek/MA100/200

I'm doing occasional press conferences and live webcasting using my XL1S. I have a press conference coming up next week where there will likely be a house breakout box for XLRs. My question is whether it would be worth renting a Beachtek for this (for some reason most places in Vancouver don't want to rent out just the MA100/200 without the entire camera kit). It was recommended to me to find a place that would just make or sell an XLR to stereo miniplug cable adaptor and input that into the mic input.

Note, the webcasting will be mono only so I don't need stereo.

I found this online which looks like it may do the trick (though I want a local supplier because of cross border shipping complication possibilities):
http://www.microphonemadness.com/mmdualxlrfem.html

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Old January 29th, 2003, 02:44 PM   #20
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Beachtek DXA-4C

Here's the Beachtek that's on their site. It costs a pretty penny to buy but to rent it's nothing really ($15/day)

http://www.beachtek.com/dxa4c.html
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Old August 10th, 2003, 08:03 PM   #21
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XLR adapter dont seem to get anything

Yesterday I catured the selectmans meeting ..wat a gig....
Thing is ...we ran a xlr lead from the makie desk where all the mics were going to... from there to the back of my xlr adapter on my xl1s....Canon.....I flicked all the switches...and ran through all the different menue settings on the cam...audio 1 in etc and nothing.......dose the adapter need power or somthing ....is there
a battery cuningly hidden..or am I just stoopid...please help
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Old August 11th, 2003, 04:55 AM   #22
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Which XLR adapter? The Canon adapters (MA-100 and MA-200) draw power from the XL1s, the submini phone jack on the short cord from the MA must be plugged into the corresponding jack by the Audio1 jacks.
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Old August 11th, 2003, 08:55 AM   #23
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looks like mono plug right

Hey thanks....yeh ..my adapter has 2x xlr inputs with shoulder rest....2x left and right input...which I guess go to back of cam audio1.......and a small ..looks like a mono...is this power ....I pluged it into the very small imput...between the left and right audio in right ..!...still no joy..
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Old August 11th, 2003, 08:56 PM   #24
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Should work.
What are your switch settings?
What are your menu settings?
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Old September 9th, 2003, 04:43 PM   #25
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xlr to xl1 using "Y" connector

I have been recording from a lav mike to my Canon XL1 using an xlr adapter that allows me to send audio to both channels, via an MA-100. I'm not really sure why, (I knew someone who did this on a shoot in Boston some years ago) but the results seem fine, even though my microphone is not stereo. In Final Cut Pro 3, I thus get audio to both channels. I'm just looking for feedback on this approach. I've heard that an audio signal can be comprimised(split?) with my method, but it seems strong to me...
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Old September 9th, 2003, 07:58 PM   #26
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If it works for you , and it sounds OK if you do a mono recording, be happy in your work. The "Y" adapter is just paralleling the inputs so the mic sees a 300 ohm input impedance rather than the 600 ohms of one of the channels by itself. For good low impedance mics this is not a problem.
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Old September 9th, 2003, 09:52 PM   #27
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Don is right, if it works for you then it is OK. Most people usually just copy one track to both in post.
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Old September 19th, 2003, 05:01 PM   #28
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I've likewise used a y-connector, just when nothing else is available, so I hooked it up to both channels rather than letting it dangle. No problems that I could hear.

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Old September 21st, 2003, 06:01 PM   #29
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Y-cable usage

I use an XLR Y splitter all the time, every time when using external mics. As stated in the other posts, all it's doing is splitting that audio to both channels. It gives more fullness to the sound. I don't know why everyone doesn't do it. Why do it in post when you can get it all on location?
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Old September 22nd, 2003, 12:24 PM   #30
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I tend to agree. Fuller sound. However, after reading some of these posts, somehow it seems that taking audio from a mike to one camera channel might be laying a stronger signal to that one channel, before it is split. Then, if you choose to copy one track to another in post, will the result have been copying a stronger signal to the other track? Or does it even matter? Audio is not my strongest suit so I'd love feedback on this...
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