Skin colour on overexposed footage at DVinfo.net

Javier Gallen · July 13th, 2005, 12:38 PM

Hi, i've been working with Canon XL1s for a short time, and I noticed that if you have some skin parts overexposed, they don't go to white. In fact, they look horrible yellow as a fried egg. That makes me take care of no overexposing ANY skin on XL1s.

Don't know if this is typical on prosumer cameras, or if there's some way to correct that.

This is my first post... Also, excuse my English.

Ian Thomas · July 13th, 2005, 01:58 PM

Hi Javier

You might want to check the cameras custom picture settings and see if that helps, and check your white balance settings

Hope that helps

Ash Greyson · July 13th, 2005, 02:44 PM

Sounds like too warm of a white balance. Turn your setup level down in the custom settings and maybe check your Zebra patterns before you start rolling...

ash =o)

Javier Gallen · July 14th, 2005, 04:19 AM

I'll try to use a colder white balance, but is something that never happenned me working with Betacam of any brand. I expect to minimize that effect, but I'm start to thinking it's an inherent problem of this camera/format.

Thanks, anyway.

Ash Greyson · July 14th, 2005, 02:16 PM

You got it... less dynamic range. I think you will find the XL2 to be much better in this regard. If you really want to get close to Beta, step up to the 2/3" CCD cams, they are so close, most people cant tell.

ash =o)

Javier Gallen · July 15th, 2005, 04:23 AM

Quote:

You got it... less dynamic range.

Just after a few tests I have to say, that's it. :(

In a few weeks i'll be working with the JVC's HDV prosumer camera, and I hope a better dynamic range (or latitude). Thanks, again, for the advices.

Ash Greyson · July 16th, 2005, 12:05 PM

It does have better range in general but in my experience, HDV cameras have a lot of trouble with bright lights that move. I shot a concert in HDV and it was a disaster, the splashing lights was just too much. Outside of that HDV looks great, very video like but very clear.

The XL2 is the happy medium but it all depends on the work you are doing.

ash =o)

Waldemar Winkler · July 26th, 2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javier Gallen

I'll try to use a colder white balance, but is something that never happenned me working with Betacam of any brand. I expect to minimize that effect, but I'm start to thinking it's an inherent problem of this camera/format.

Thanks, anyway.

Compared to Betacam, Mini-DV is a a step backward in many respects. Focusing is difficult. Detail in luminance is so much better with Becacam. I think it is a condition of the transition to digital. Thre are many advantages to digital, ...but. Very much like comparing 35mm film format to 4X5 film format. In time the gap will disappear.

July 13th, 2005, 12:38 PM	#1
Javier Gallen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 67	Skin colour on overexposed footage Hi, i've been working with Canon XL1s for a short time, and I noticed that if you have some skin parts overexposed, they don't go to white. In fact, they look horrible yellow as a fried egg. That makes me take care of no overexposing ANY skin on XL1s. Don't know if this is typical on prosumer cameras, or if there's some way to correct that. This is my first post... Also, excuse my English.

July 13th, 2005, 01:58 PM	#2
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Hi Javier You might want to check the cameras custom picture settings and see if that helps, and check your white balance settings Hope that helps __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions

July 13th, 2005, 02:44 PM	#3
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Sounds like too warm of a white balance. Turn your setup level down in the custom settings and maybe check your Zebra patterns before you start rolling... ash =o)

July 14th, 2005, 04:19 AM	#4
Javier Gallen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 67	I'll try to use a colder white balance, but is something that never happenned me working with Betacam of any brand. I expect to minimize that effect, but I'm start to thinking it's an inherent problem of this camera/format. Thanks, anyway.

July 14th, 2005, 02:16 PM	#5
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	You got it... less dynamic range. I think you will find the XL2 to be much better in this regard. If you really want to get close to Beta, step up to the 2/3" CCD cams, they are so close, most people cant tell. ash =o)

July 16th, 2005, 12:05 PM	#7
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	It does have better range in general but in my experience, HDV cameras have a lot of trouble with bright lights that move. I shot a concert in HDV and it was a disaster, the splashing lights was just too much. Outside of that HDV looks great, very video like but very clear. The XL2 is the happy medium but it all depends on the work you are doing. ash =o)