Arri PL to XL1 Adapter
Has anyone seen or used this thing?
Someone calling himself Digital film Consortium sells it on Ebay and says it allows you to mount arri pl lenses to the xl-1. Great! But, does it retain DOF and is it still afflicted by the dreaded 7.2x factor? Anyone out there have any info? |
The Arri PL mount is used on both 16mm and 35mm lenses. The adapters are just mechanical adapters and 16mm lenses will have a 2.6X mag. factor and the 35mm will have a 7.2X mag. factor. If you want to preserve the inherent shallow DOF of the larger formats, the Mini35 is, at the present, the only way to adapt the larger format lenses.
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Recent write up
Thanks, but I just found some contrary info.
I just read a write up - probably by the company who manufactures the thing, and it claims it does in fact retain DOF, although there is no mention of the &X factor. Any more info out there? I am very interested in this adapter. If i have to I wouldn;t be averse to using 16mm lenses. a 2.6X really doesn't bother me. Although, the 7X is unacceptable. |
Can you post a link to the write up I'd like to read it. Thanks.
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The 16mm DOF will be approx. 1/3rd between the DOF for the 1/3 inch(8mm) format of the XL1 CCD and 35mm. Not sure this is worth the trouble. You can get the same by stopping down.
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I don't know who's telling the truth. It says here the DOF is preserved.
http://www.virtualcybervision.com/xl1/ |
I wouldn't be laying down cash until you've seen at least some stills using the adapter. One thing to remember that as this is only a mechanical adapter you will get a "no lens" indication blinking in the center of the viewfinder and you will not be able to use the digital effects such as the slow shutter speeds.
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Hi there
technically the DOF _is_ preserved, but the angle of view is changed. Jeff Donald put up a really good article right here on this site (http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/optics/dofskinny.php), so have a read through that to see if it makes sense to you. In any case, if there is no extra optical element in the adaptor (and on this one there isn't), then you will get the change in angle-of-view, even though DOF is unchanged... HTH, Kai. |
Oops, forgot a bit;
http://www.virtualcybervision.com/xl1/PL%20Photos.htm has some samples. However, i have no doubt that images of that quality or something aproaching it very closely in terms of DOF can be achieved with the Manual 16x, possibly even with the IS. The trick is to open up your iris as far as you can. Use ND's if you can't go further... The scene in the samples is relatively dark anyway (overcast day it looks like), so I'm confident I could do similar things with my manual 16x and an ND. Kai. |
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Zac |
I’ve been out of town, sorry to take so long in getting back to this thread. The link is to a mini 35, which does preserve the DOF of the attached lens. The PL adapter allows you to use Arri mount lenses. Other adapters are available, Canon FD, Nikon F etc. His statement that the PL-XL adapter preserves DOF is not correct if it is a mechanical adapter. The magnification from 16mm lenses is a little over 2X but the use of 35mm lenses will give a much greater magnification and DOF.
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