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Bill Ravens December 28th, 2007 01:28 PM

Color Conversion Problem with Neo HD and Vegas8
 
David....
Hoping you can offer a suggestion, here, as to why I'm seeing color differences between Neo HDV and Neo HD with Vegas Pro 8a.

I performed this test with Neo HDV several months ago. I recorded a color bar pattern from my HD110 and converted the m2t file with HDLink to CFHD. After importing the intermediate file to Vegas Pro 8a, and looking at the file with the Vegas waveform monitor(WFM), b&w levels and colors lined up well with the reference marks in the WFM.

I recently upgraded my license to Neo HD and repeated the test. The CFHD intermediate, when examined in the WFM, is showing the correct b&w levels, however, the colors are quite a bit off. The image appears very "neon" in appearance.

I filed a trouble ticket, together with some of the test files. Do you know what might be causing the problem?

David Newman December 28th, 2007 01:31 PM

Send sample to support as no one else has reported this. It is very odd the the waveform shows levels are correct but displays wrong. There is no difference in the Vegas decoder better NEO HDV and NEO HD, only the encoder changes. Making this even weirder.

Bill Ravens December 28th, 2007 01:36 PM

In the interest of clarification, the WFM confirms that the colors are off. The B&W LEVELS are right on, RGB 16 and RGB 235, however the color refs are off as if it is a gamma problem. For example, RGB values on the NTSC colorbars green should be R016 G180 B016, but they read R016, G224, B006.

David Newman December 28th, 2007 01:40 PM

Send your samples, with full details of your testing procedures, include how and when your source AVIs were created.

Bill Ravens December 28th, 2007 02:34 PM

Update:
Re-installed Neo HD v3.21 and the colorbars now look correct. I was misled because I had uninstalled v 3.22, reinstalled v 3.21, and CFHD did not retrograde to the earlier version. After manually removing CFHD, and re-installing v 3.21, it retrograded.

Bottom line: the problem seems to be with NeoHD v3.22, build 148 decoder. Files encoded with v3.22 now display properly with v3.21 reinstalled.

David Newman December 28th, 2007 04:06 PM

Still can't do any testing without your samples. Please be quick as I'm about to be out until Jan 2nd. Fortunately you can use 3.2.1.

Bill Ravens December 28th, 2007 04:42 PM

sorry...
where to?

David Newman December 28th, 2007 04:52 PM

www.cineform.com/support please file a ticket.

Bill Ravens December 28th, 2007 04:56 PM

thanx, already done.
611-5515061

David Newman December 29th, 2007 10:15 AM

Unfortunately I didn't get the links before I left of the long weekend. You are welcome to email me with that data and I look if I have some time.

Bill Ravens December 29th, 2007 10:37 AM

Thanx, David....
I think it'll keep until next year. Hope you have a great New Years!!!

Bill Ravens January 2nd, 2008 05:49 PM

David...

Just got an email from Cineform support telling me they had closed the trouble ticket because you are handling it. Is there a resolution to my problem?

David Newman January 2nd, 2008 05:53 PM

Yes, it is fixed. Doing the new builds now.

Bill Ravens January 2nd, 2008 06:01 PM

Great...Thanx for your attention.
I'm starting to work with .mxf files from an EX1, so this will be very timely.

David Newman January 2nd, 2008 06:57 PM

The bug was in the decoder, so you can start you encoding now.


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