export Cineform m2t from PPro and use with ClipWrap to edit in FCP? at DVinfo.net

Chad Haufschild · August 10th, 2009, 08:45 PM

Here's the situation. I'm editing an indie feature with PPro and Cineform (PC). Recently my director and I recruited a mentor of ours to cut a trailer for us. He's a Final Cut user (Mac, obviously) and doesn't use Cineform as an intermediate. So, here's a thought...
Can I export pieces of my edited timeline as one large Cineform m2t file then have him use ClipWrap to edit? I guess my real question is this. Is Cineform m2t a standard m2t file format or does it require a valid Cineform product to be installed?
Before anyone suggested it, he already has ClipWrap and doesn't feel the need to purchase a Cineform product for himself (even after many attempts to convert him) and we as the filmmakers can't afford it. Our budget is dry. Thanks.

Craig Davidson · August 10th, 2009, 09:13 PM

CineForm intermediate works fine with FCP. If they only need to read the files, then NeoPlayer will allow FCP to read the files. The editor just needs to set up a ProRes timeline.

Michael Wisniewski · August 11th, 2009, 02:39 AM

Here's a good tech note for using Cineform files on an FCP timeline. Your mentor just needs to install the free NEO Player to have the Cineform decoder installed on his Mac.

Chad Haufschild · August 11th, 2009, 08:53 AM

Of course! I didn't even consider using Neo Player. Well, now I feel a little silly having asked the question.
Thanks, guys. Perfect answer.

Chad Haufschild · August 11th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Actually, one little question.
I'm assuming it's best to encode the timeline as CF Quicktime as apposed to AVI for the Mac. Is this correct or will it really matter?
Thanks.

Craig Davidson · August 11th, 2009, 12:04 PM

It does not matter, FCP will read either. If you have adjusted color, or applied looks using FirstLight, you do need to copy files from the database so the adjustments show up on the Mac.

Chad Haufschild · August 12th, 2009, 10:24 AM

Thanks again, guys. The process works perfectly. Installed Neo Player on the Mac, setup the proper sequence settings and like magic it plays and edits perfectly. The editor was estonished by the picture and playback quality. We may just have converted a ProRes user.

August 10th, 2009, 08:45 PM	#1
Chad Haufschild Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 162	export Cineform m2t from PPro and use with ClipWrap to edit in FCP? Here's the situation. I'm editing an indie feature with PPro and Cineform (PC). Recently my director and I recruited a mentor of ours to cut a trailer for us. He's a Final Cut user (Mac, obviously) and doesn't use Cineform as an intermediate. So, here's a thought... Can I export pieces of my edited timeline as one large Cineform m2t file then have him use ClipWrap to edit? I guess my real question is this. Is Cineform m2t a standard m2t file format or does it require a valid Cineform product to be installed? Before anyone suggested it, he already has ClipWrap and doesn't feel the need to purchase a Cineform product for himself (even after many attempts to convert him) and we as the filmmakers can't afford it. Our budget is dry. Thanks.

August 11th, 2009, 02:39 AM	#3
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Here's a good tech note for using Cineform files on an FCP timeline. Your mentor just needs to install the free NEO Player to have the Cineform decoder installed on his Mac. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

August 11th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#5
Chad Haufschild Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 162	Actually, one little question. I'm assuming it's best to encode the timeline as CF Quicktime as apposed to AVI for the Mac. Is this correct or will it really matter? Thanks. Last edited by Chad Haufschild; August 12th, 2009 at 10:25 AM.

August 12th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#7
Chad Haufschild Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 162	Update Thanks again, guys. The process works perfectly. Installed Neo Player on the Mac, setup the proper sequence settings and like magic it plays and edits perfectly. The editor was estonished by the picture and playback quality. We may just have converted a ProRes user.

August 10th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#2
Craig Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 142	CineForm intermediate works fine with FCP. If they only need to read the files, then NeoPlayer will allow FCP to read the files. The editor just needs to set up a ProRes timeline.

August 11th, 2009, 08:53 AM	#4
Chad Haufschild Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 162	Of course! I didn't even consider using Neo Player. Well, now I feel a little silly having asked the question. Thanks, guys. Perfect answer.

August 11th, 2009, 12:04 PM	#6
Craig Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 142	It does not matter, FCP will read either. If you have adjusted color, or applied looks using FirstLight, you do need to copy files from the database so the adjustments show up on the Mac.