New LUTs for First Light at DVinfo.net

David Newman · August 27th, 2009, 02:48 PM

In the next release we intend to include a link to separate package to add more looks (3D LUTs) to First Light -- greatly expanding your creativity for color design. You can download this today as these LUTs where used to finish both CineForm's films entered for last week's 48 Hour Film Project. Get the LUTs are read more from my blog: CineForm Insider: Theatrical Successes

Rohan Dadswell · August 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Are these LUTs designed to be used with the Cineform RAW from the SI-2K or are they more intended for non RAW cameras that already have some colour info baked in?

David Newman · August 27th, 2009, 07:08 PM

Both. As First Light can alter the saturation/matrix and curves on the input of the LUT, all source types work. The blog discusses how the two films both used these LUT, yet one film was made with a Canon HV30 the other SI-2K.

Alex Raskin · August 28th, 2009, 01:02 AM

Awesome - I start really digging the First Light :)

Where can we get MORE of the LUTs?

Is there a universal source?

Say, if I wanted to get a look of 3-strip Technicolor via use of LUT, where would I download it?

David Newman · August 28th, 2009, 08:53 AM

In Prospect HD CS3 you can create you own LUTs with the Look exporter. More info here http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=1871 If you create a 3-strip look, can you please share.

Alex Raskin · August 28th, 2009, 09:44 AM

LOL, looks like 3-strip is popular again these days ;) Will do if I come across a good one.

Problem: I followed the tutorial in your blog, but got an empty LOOK file.

If on export, I set "Entire timeline", then Cineform generates looks from ALL of the clips on the timeline (and they all work fine). This is not what I want, I only want the custom look generated from the clip I currently work on.

So I set work area to the clip I want, choose "Work area only" on export, it seems to be generating something, but 0 bit file is created and no look shows in the database.

David Newman · August 28th, 2009, 10:41 AM

No idea why work bar is not working for you, but your workaround is easy, cut the one segement into a new sequence -- export that.

David H. Wilson · August 29th, 2009, 01:24 AM

Thank you very much for the new look pack David. We're far off shooting somewhere in Central Aisa and the new looks will help our process enormously - some of them are right on the mark for us. Thanks again and congratulations on the 48 hour films.

David

Stephen Armour · August 29th, 2009, 09:00 PM

Our color man was just wondering why there were so few LUT's for FL! Presto, I've got a surprise for him tomorrow to already try out on some new material!

We've got a chance to try some of our stuff out on some 4K Sony projectors (which is super overkill for our little 1920x1080p masters), so we'll wow the friend running them and bring it on a PC with direct output to the projector just like you guys did at the festival.

Cineform might even gain some new customers for the 3D codec if we can show if off well...(they're doing some spendy 3D experiments for the giant Petrobras oil company here and never heard of Cineform).

Tnx LUT's and congrads on the festival showing!

August 27th, 2009, 02:48 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	New LUTs for First Light In the next release we intend to include a link to separate package to add more looks (3D LUTs) to First Light -- greatly expanding your creativity for color design. You can download this today as these LUTs where used to finish both CineForm's films entered for last week's 48 Hour Film Project. Get the LUTs are read more from my blog: CineForm Insider: Theatrical Successes __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 27th, 2009, 07:08 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Both. As First Light can alter the saturation/matrix and curves on the input of the LUT, all source types work. The blog discusses how the two films both used these LUT, yet one film was made with a Canon HV30 the other SI-2K. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 28th, 2009, 08:53 AM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	In Prospect HD CS3 you can create you own LUTs with the Look exporter. More info here http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=1871 If you create a 3-strip look, can you please share. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 28th, 2009, 10:41 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	No idea why work bar is not working for you, but your workaround is easy, cut the one segement into a new sequence -- export that. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 29th, 2009, 09:00 PM	#9
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	Our color man was just wondering why there were so few LUT's for FL! Presto, I've got a surprise for him tomorrow to already try out on some new material! We've got a chance to try some of our stuff out on some 4K Sony projectors (which is super overkill for our little 1920x1080p masters), so we'll wow the friend running them and bring it on a PC with direct output to the projector just like you guys did at the festival. Cineform might even gain some new customers for the 3D codec if we can show if off well...(they're doing some spendy 3D experiments for the giant Petrobras oil company here and never heard of Cineform). Tnx LUT's and congrads on the festival showing! __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

August 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM	#2
Rohan Dadswell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 228	Are these LUTs designed to be used with the Cineform RAW from the SI-2K or are they more intended for non RAW cameras that already have some colour info baked in?

August 28th, 2009, 01:02 AM	#4
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Awesome - I start really digging the First Light :) Where can we get MORE of the LUTs? Is there a universal source? Say, if I wanted to get a look of 3-strip Technicolor via use of LUT, where would I download it?

August 28th, 2009, 09:44 AM	#6
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	LOL, looks like 3-strip is popular again these days ;) Will do if I come across a good one. Problem: I followed the tutorial in your blog, but got an empty LOOK file. If on export, I set "Entire timeline", then Cineform generates looks from ALL of the clips on the timeline (and they all work fine). This is not what I want, I only want the custom look generated from the clip I currently work on. So I set work area to the clip I want, choose "Work area only" on export, it seems to be generating something, but 0 bit file is created and no look shows in the database.

August 29th, 2009, 01:24 AM	#8
David H. Wilson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 124	Thank you very much for the new look pack David. We're far off shooting somewhere in Central Aisa and the new looks will help our process enormously - some of them are right on the mark for us. Thanks again and congratulations on the 48 hour films. David