HDLink -- various questions

David Newman · January 10th, 2008, 02:37 PM

Vista is still not recommended for direct camera capture via Firewire, there are still device driver issues.

Michael DAmbrose · January 10th, 2008, 03:11 PM

Will this be addressed in future? So is the recommended way to capture from within a PremierePro project?

David Newman · January 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Of course, particularly as Vista usage increases, we will see more bug fixes and features addressing that platform.

Michael DAmbrose · January 12th, 2008, 09:46 AM

David,
So I should use the freeware HDVsplit along with the $500 AspectHD program and do it in 2 steps? Yikes.

Mike

Roy Feldman · January 12th, 2008, 11:03 PM

It will work but now I have to manually start playback on the camera then hit start in CF.

Steven Thomas · January 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM

I own the BlackMagic HDLINK. The HDLINK does not offer audio over the HDMI out, but offers analog stereo RCA outputs.

Has anyone tried taking the HDMI out of the HDLINK into a BM Intensity Pro, and taking the analog RCA outs of the HDLINK and using the BM Intensity Pro's analog RCA input connections that are located with the component inputs?

My concern is that the analog inputs that are on the same connector for the component inputs will not work while capturing the HDMI video in on the Intensity Pro.

So, using the BM Intensity Pro, I want to capture video on the HDMI and capture audio on its analog inputs on at the same time, then capture this to Cineform NEO HD.

Is this possible?

I'm not sure if both HDMI, component, and RCA audio are active on the Intensity Pro at the same time.

Carl Middleton · January 13th, 2008, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

I'm not sure if both HDMI, component, and RCA audio are active on the Intensity Pro at the same time.

I've spoken with Blackmagic regarding the Intensity Pro - I was told no two video in or outputs are active at the same time. They stated you change a setting to tell it where to send/receive, only one at a time. :\

Carl

Steven Thomas · January 14th, 2008, 06:19 AM

Thanks Carl.

I wonder if you can tell it to receive audio via the analog RCA connections, and receive video via HDMI at the same time?

Carl Middleton · January 14th, 2008, 08:52 AM

I have no idea, sorry. :) Their US number is 408-954-0500... they were pretty quick to respond when I called. I'd call for you, but I'm not yet caffienated this morn ;)

C

Robert Kennedy · January 14th, 2008, 09:48 AM

Yes, you can capture HDMI video and analog audio at the same time to one file using the Intensity pro. All oyu have to do is choose those options in the Intensity control panel.

-Robert

Carl Middleton · January 14th, 2008, 10:09 AM

Robert,

I'm building a system based around the Intensity... how is it accessed via FCP? Through selecting it as an external video device a la Firewire/Cinema Display/Other Options? Or is it automatic (thereby letting me send video out via firewire as well as the Intensity? If so, how is the audio/video sync? :D

This will be my first attempt at building an editing suite, complete with minidv deck, a shared betaSP deck with the current machine, ext DVD burner, 2 monitors, external preview, etc etc..... and I really don't want to screw this up. ;)

Carl

Anthony Mwamwenda · January 14th, 2008, 12:44 PM

Adobe OnLocation records footage directly to hard disc. Can OnLocation work with HDLink and record directly into the Cineform codec?

David Taylor · January 14th, 2008, 04:17 PM

I don't think so - it only captures the native HDV stream. You can convert to CineForm files later with HDLink.

Steven Thomas · January 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Kennedy

Yes, you can capture HDMI video and analog audio at the same time to one file using the Intensity pro. All oyu have to do is choose those options in the Intensity control panel.

-Robert

Thanks Robert,
So has I'm hoping Cineform NEO HD will work with this configuration mentioned above.

Anthony Mwamwenda · January 15th, 2008, 01:53 AM

Would it make any difference to the quality of the footage if it could record into Cineform directly from the camera? As opposed to converting it to Cineform after it has been recorded.

January 10th, 2008, 02:37 PM	#166
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Vista is still not recommended for direct camera capture via Firewire, there are still device driver issues. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 10th, 2008, 03:11 PM	#167
Michael DAmbrose Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 49	Is there hope? Will this be addressed in future? So is the recommended way to capture from within a PremierePro project?

January 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM	#168
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Of course, particularly as Vista usage increases, we will see more bug fixes and features addressing that platform. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 12th, 2008, 11:03 PM	#170
Roy Feldman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grosse pointe, michigan Posts: 189	I hope you fix this also It will work but now I have to manually start playback on the camera then hit start in CF.

January 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM	#171
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Bm Hdlink > Bm Intensity Pro > Cineform I own the BlackMagic HDLINK. The HDLINK does not offer audio over the HDMI out, but offers analog stereo RCA outputs. Has anyone tried taking the HDMI out of the HDLINK into a BM Intensity Pro, and taking the analog RCA outs of the HDLINK and using the BM Intensity Pro's analog RCA input connections that are located with the component inputs? My concern is that the analog inputs that are on the same connector for the component inputs will not work while capturing the HDMI video in on the Intensity Pro. So, using the BM Intensity Pro, I want to capture video on the HDMI and capture audio on its analog inputs on at the same time, then capture this to Cineform NEO HD. Is this possible? I'm not sure if both HDMI, component, and RCA audio are active on the Intensity Pro at the same time.

January 12th, 2008, 09:46 AM	#169
Michael DAmbrose Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 49	David, So I should use the freeware HDVsplit along with the $500 AspectHD program and do it in 2 steps? Yikes. Mike

January 14th, 2008, 06:19 AM	#173
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Thanks Carl. I wonder if you can tell it to receive audio via the analog RCA connections, and receive video via HDMI at the same time?

January 14th, 2008, 08:52 AM	#174
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	I have no idea, sorry. :) Their US number is 408-954-0500... they were pretty quick to respond when I called. I'd call for you, but I'm not yet caffienated this morn ;) C __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

January 14th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#175
Robert Kennedy Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 62	Yes, you can capture HDMI video and analog audio at the same time to one file using the Intensity pro. All oyu have to do is choose those options in the Intensity control panel. -Robert

January 14th, 2008, 10:09 AM	#176
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Robert, I'm building a system based around the Intensity... how is it accessed via FCP? Through selecting it as an external video device a la Firewire/Cinema Display/Other Options? Or is it automatic (thereby letting me send video out via firewire as well as the Intensity? If so, how is the audio/video sync? :D This will be my first attempt at building an editing suite, complete with minidv deck, a shared betaSP deck with the current machine, ext DVD burner, 2 monitors, external preview, etc etc..... and I really don't want to screw this up. ;) Carl __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

January 14th, 2008, 12:44 PM	#177
Anthony Mwamwenda New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Durban, South Africa Posts: 16	Does HDLink work with OnLocation? Adobe OnLocation records footage directly to hard disc. Can OnLocation work with HDLink and record directly into the Cineform codec?

January 14th, 2008, 04:17 PM	#178
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	I don't think so - it only captures the native HDV stream. You can convert to CineForm files later with HDLink.

January 15th, 2008, 01:53 AM	#180
Anthony Mwamwenda New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Durban, South Africa Posts: 16	Would it make any difference to the quality of the footage if it could record into Cineform directly from the camera? As opposed to converting it to Cineform after it has been recorded.