PHD PP and camera shake

Stephen Armour · February 22nd, 2010, 06:41 AM

Mocha has our vote as well. It's saved our skins and rescued some almost impossible shots. Like Robert mentioned, the tracking info export to AE for complex stuff has allowed us to do some nice stuff.

It's certainly worth a very serious look. Like all pro level tools, it's curve is a little higher, but then again...so are the results!

Robert Young · February 22nd, 2010, 12:25 PM

Bruce
Any of the motion stabilization processes will soften the image, but Mocha, with its high end tracking, creates less softening than Mercalli, or the AE tracker.
As I mentioned, once the stabilized clip is on the timeline, you can apply the unsharp mask filter in PPro and the image sharpens up to very, very near the original detail.
The 10 bit CFHD.avi provides the data headroom to get away with this magic.

Jay Bloomfield · February 22nd, 2010, 09:31 PM

The only problem that I've run into with Mocha and blur is when the blur is not consistent from frame to frame. This seems to happen on particularly "unruly" shots. Sometimes fiddling with the settings in Mocha or using an alternate planar surface fixes this problem. But for most stabilizing jobs, the combination of Mocha and Cineform is truly magical.

The 64 bit version of Mocha will be released at about the same time as Adobe CS5. With more physical RAM available, this should help with tracking and stabilizing full HD and higher clips.

Bruce Gruber · February 24th, 2010, 04:03 AM

Ok thanks everyone!! Most of the shake I am talking about is just from holding the camera. Sometime a little movement or a short walk cause more shak then i would like.

February 22nd, 2010, 06:41 AM	#16
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	Mocha has our vote as well. It's saved our skins and rescued some almost impossible shots. Like Robert mentioned, the tracking info export to AE for complex stuff has allowed us to do some nice stuff. It's certainly worth a very serious look. Like all pro level tools, it's curve is a little higher, but then again...so are the results! __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

February 22nd, 2010, 12:25 PM	#17
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	Bruce Any of the motion stabilization processes will soften the image, but Mocha, with its high end tracking, creates less softening than Mercalli, or the AE tracker. As I mentioned, once the stabilized clip is on the timeline, you can apply the unsharp mask filter in PPro and the image sharpens up to very, very near the original detail. The 10 bit CFHD.avi provides the data headroom to get away with this magic. __________________ Bob

February 22nd, 2010, 09:31 PM	#18
Jay Bloomfield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 433	The only problem that I've run into with Mocha and blur is when the blur is not consistent from frame to frame. This seems to happen on particularly "unruly" shots. Sometimes fiddling with the settings in Mocha or using an alternate planar surface fixes this problem. But for most stabilizing jobs, the combination of Mocha and Cineform is truly magical. The 64 bit version of Mocha will be released at about the same time as Adobe CS5. With more physical RAM available, this should help with tracking and stabilizing full HD and higher clips.

February 24th, 2010, 04:03 AM	#19
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Ok thanks everyone!! Most of the shake I am talking about is just from holding the camera. Sometime a little movement or a short walk cause more shak then i would like.