HDlink, can it tell 1080p24ADV from 720p24pn on a hard disk dump from p2 card? at DVinfo.net

Obin Olson · June 3rd, 2006, 10:58 PM

David, I have a dump on a firewire drive of a 4 gig p2 card, it has some 180flip in 1080i24pADV, some 720p24 and some regular 1080i, all in the same folder. How can I tell HDLink to render the 1080p24 as 1080p and the 720p as such? if I leave dont resize checked then it will output what? native pixel right? at some weird aspect?

The question is, how to I preserve the clips as I shot them while doing a batch render into cineform?

Obin Olson · June 3rd, 2006, 11:04 PM

hmmm...I think I found a bug, when the disk is full HDlink crashes while it's in a render, seems it's not checking disk space as it renders???

David Newman · June 3rd, 2006, 11:11 PM

I'll have to check on the disk full condition.

For batch scaling, you want 960x720 to go to 1280x720 and 1280x1080 to 1920x1080 and only the pull-down removed from some of the 1080 clips. Eekk! The resizing can be made adaptive, to always generate square pixel HD (at the closest size up), however whether to remove pulldown or not is little more tricky. If you turn off scaling you get the source resolution (with there odd pixel aspects -- although they do work in Prospect HD.)

Obin Olson · June 3rd, 2006, 11:11 PM

And it seems that when I don't resize p2 1080p24 clips in HDlink and drop them on the premiere pro 2.0 Cineform 1920x1080 preset timeline they have a red bar needing render, even though they are native 1080x1920 24fps clips from HDlink....

hmm...fun fun fun....answers to all this mess? ;)

Obin Olson · June 3rd, 2006, 11:15 PM

I will never shoot 1080i I made a mistake on that one, so that is not an issue, it will be 1080i24pADV and 720p24 clips that I will have on the same p2 card most of the time because I will be shooting all greenscreen at 1080 as we have found it's much better for keying. Then I will be shooting lots of other type shots at 720p

I understand you can't "see" the 180flip in your conversion but if you could set it so that I have an option for automatic 1080 and 720 clips that would be nice as hell..;)

Nice as hell camera for the money this little beast! the more I use it the more I like the whole p2 idea, sure has NICE images if you set it up right! And the RedRock Adapter is just too sweet!!!

Obin Olson · June 3rd, 2006, 11:19 PM

Here is an idea!

what if you have thumbnails of the footage for conversion with a tab that shows what format it's in?? This way you can "see" the 180flip images from the RedRock adapter...just thinking out loud here...

David Newman · June 4th, 2006, 08:43 AM

That is a nice idea. Now to find the time to implement it.

Obin Olson · June 4th, 2006, 03:23 PM

DOes HDlink have an OUTPUT directory so that when I batch convert from a p2 dump I can tell it what disk to make the avi files on?

David Newman · June 4th, 2006, 03:25 PM

Yes. Set the check box underneith the capture path control in Prefs.

Obin Olson · June 5th, 2006, 01:40 AM

ha! I did not see that little box at first. HdLink is a FAST converter on my machine.

somthing funny happened, one clip came out all super wide, it should have been a convert from 1080i24PA to 1280, but it came out somthing like 1280x500 or so...weird...

David Newman · June 5th, 2006, 08:32 AM

If it is repeatable I would love to get the source MXF clip.

June 3rd, 2006, 10:58 PM	#1
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	HDlink, can it tell 1080p24ADV from 720p24pn on a hard disk dump from p2 card? David, I have a dump on a firewire drive of a 4 gig p2 card, it has some 180flip in 1080i24pADV, some 720p24 and some regular 1080i, all in the same folder. How can I tell HDLink to render the 1080p24 as 1080p and the 720p as such? if I leave dont resize checked then it will output what? native pixel right? at some weird aspect? The question is, how to I preserve the clips as I shot them while doing a batch render into cineform?

June 3rd, 2006, 11:11 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I'll have to check on the disk full condition. For batch scaling, you want 960x720 to go to 1280x720 and 1280x1080 to 1920x1080 and only the pull-down removed from some of the 1080 clips. Eekk! The resizing can be made adaptive, to always generate square pixel HD (at the closest size up), however whether to remove pulldown or not is little more tricky. If you turn off scaling you get the source resolution (with there odd pixel aspects -- although they do work in Prospect HD.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 4th, 2006, 08:43 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That is a nice idea. Now to find the time to implement it. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 4th, 2006, 03:25 PM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Yes. Set the check box underneith the capture path control in Prefs. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 5th, 2006, 08:32 AM	#11
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	If it is repeatable I would love to get the source MXF clip. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 3rd, 2006, 11:04 PM	#2
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	hmmm...I think I found a bug, when the disk is full HDlink crashes while it's in a render, seems it's not checking disk space as it renders???

June 3rd, 2006, 11:15 PM	#5
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I will never shoot 1080i I made a mistake on that one, so that is not an issue, it will be 1080i24pADV and 720p24 clips that I will have on the same p2 card most of the time because I will be shooting all greenscreen at 1080 as we have found it's much better for keying. Then I will be shooting lots of other type shots at 720p I understand you can't "see" the 180flip in your conversion but if you could set it so that I have an option for automatic 1080 and 720 clips that would be nice as hell..;) Nice as hell camera for the money this little beast! the more I use it the more I like the whole p2 idea, sure has NICE images if you set it up right! And the RedRock Adapter is just too sweet!!!

June 3rd, 2006, 11:19 PM	#6
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Here is an idea! what if you have thumbnails of the footage for conversion with a tab that shows what format it's in?? This way you can "see" the 180flip images from the RedRock adapter...just thinking out loud here...

June 4th, 2006, 03:23 PM	#8
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	DOes HDlink have an OUTPUT directory so that when I batch convert from a p2 dump I can tell it what disk to make the avi files on?

June 5th, 2006, 01:40 AM	#10
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	ha! I did not see that little box at first. HdLink is a FAST converter on my machine. somthing funny happened, one clip came out all super wide, it should have been a convert from 1080i24PA to 1280, but it came out somthing like 1280x500 or so...weird...