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Old July 20th, 2006, 04:54 AM   #1
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Cineform RAW implementation onto fpga design

This is possible in near future?
How much cost licensing of Cineform RAW?
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Old July 20th, 2006, 06:41 AM   #2
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The SI camera just uses a portable PC to encode Cineform... the exact details should be in the SI forum on dvinfo somewhere. So you don't necessarily need a FPGA..? Although it might have advantages in power consumption.

I'm not sure what the Wafian does, I'd be curious about that.
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Old July 20th, 2006, 09:27 AM   #3
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Yes CineFrom RAW can go into FPGA, we originally planned an FPGA implementation yet CPU got fast enough that we haven't needed to do it. The architecture is still in place for an FPGA version. Contact the office if you serious about licensing.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:33 AM   #4
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David, why not to ask people on this forum about wishes to have Cineform Camcorder on fpga based and be sensor agnostic as Elphel camera?
A lot of people can prepaid $500-1000 only for encoder platform (CMOS imager with coder and interfaces) without lenses and storage.

With this hardware platform (CMOS - FPGA) your company can sell more software and accessories :)
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:48 AM   #5
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All do-able, just need to work out how to pay for the port to that FPGA.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 10:39 AM   #6
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May be, Andrey Philipov (developer of Elphel cam) can help to you in that question?
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Old August 10th, 2007, 05:50 AM   #7
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This GIGe camera ready for CineformRAW code ? ;)
"A large on-board FPGA allows for realtime filtering of up to 500 full frames. Filtered image data volume is usually way below 100 MB/s. Thus GigE based inspection and motion analysis at 500 fps becomes an easy task."
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Old August 10th, 2007, 10:04 AM   #8
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Yes that would work, although camera is likely not the best choice of entertain work at 10-bit linear -- you need 12.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 04:13 AM   #9
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Yes that would work, although camera is likely not the best choice of entertain work at 10-bit linear -- you need 12.
Micron released special HD edition 5Mpixel 1/2.5" of cmos image sensor MT9P041.

I hope this CIS can be first non expensive sensor to get CineformRAW :)
David, i have free $20K in my wallet:) I love Cineform codec and i like versatile and modular concept of Elphel camera.
But i'm not developer and dont have knowledge how to start to implement CineformRAW onto Elphel cam...

Source code (c++ ?) of CineformRAW need convert to verilog code for fpga, right?
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We are open to do FPGA implemation, and yes there is NRE involved. Source code would be part of the development guideline.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #11
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David, what is NRE? I know only about NDA.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 11:39 AM   #12
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If you have ask you don't want to know :) -- "Non Recuring Engineering" costs.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #13
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If you have ask you don't want to know :) -- "Non Recuring Engineering" costs.
I want to know - how much need to pay to implement Cineform code to Elphel's camera?:)
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Old August 25th, 2007, 01:19 PM   #14
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So much detail not suitable for forum discussions. If your are serious contact David Taylor for discussions.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 02:01 PM   #15
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Thank you, David. I will ask another David (Taylor).
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